Big Brother 21 Wednesday Night Sept 18 Veto Recap | Jenny Autumn #BB21

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  • Wiser1FOREVER
    Wiser1FOREVER  2 months back

    Cliff deserved to get evicted because he initially betrayed Nicole with his agreement with Michie about taking him to final 2! Doesn't really matter that he tried to walk that back right before getting evicted!

    • Wiser1FOREVER
      Wiser1FOREVER  2 months back

      Holly mostly had success because of her support from Michie! She would argue that she would have won the previous HOH if she had NOT just jumped off the swing & handed it to Nicole. Who's to say that Nicole would not have won that one anyway!

      • Wiser1FOREVER
        Wiser1FOREVER  2 months back

        If Michie wins the final HOH, he would easily argue that he deserves to win the whole thing! Of course that doesn't guarantee the jury will give it to him!

        • Wiser1FOREVER
          Wiser1FOREVER  2 months back

          Yes, if Holly or Nicole wins the final HOH, they should take each other to the finale! Doesn't make any sense for Holly to take her Showmance to the Finale if she is serious about winning! Michie already made comments early on about his family being his priority & would do what's best for him! His interest in Holly is likely to end after the competition is finished!

          • junkraat
            junkraat  2 months back

            Ovi annoying why they like him so much lol

            • Samantha Romero
              Samantha Romero  2 months back

              My love for Brent mirrors Jackson's love of confetti.

              • Heather's Weight Watcher Journey

                Please bring Jackson’s Mama back 😂😂😂

                • Expat Lifestyle
                  Expat Lifestyle  2 months back

                  Nicole and Cliff are going down as the dummest players in BB history. Nicole is listening to cliff who can’t win a competition. Cliff is still making deals with only 4 people left in the game. The worst he’s making deals with both sides of a showmance. I would hate for Holly or Michie to win but those two do not deserve it. The only real winner here is Michie and I can’t stand him. Holly winning would be horrible because she shouldn’t have made it this far.

                  • LizinTexas
                    LizinTexas  2 months back

                    It was really nice to see Jenny on the show tonight with Rob and Brent.

                    • Lady Di
                      Lady Di  2 months back

                      I really like her better than the other women they use!

                  • French blue8
                    French blue8  2 months back

                    Never heard of you, never seen this before but I'm kind of hoping I don't like it because it's ALL almost over and I've missed pretty much all of it~ your show, not Big Brother LOL.

                    I'm only 2 minutes 15 seconds in ~ which is to say about 10 seconds into the actual talking part. So I don't know any of what y'all are going to say. So I'm just going to say what I really need to say, somewhere, shout it, anywhere I don't care where as long as it is somewhere in Big Brother Land , right, and do it straight away.

                    If Cliff Hogg isn't the most unfathomably deluded, completely brainfried nutter in Big Brother history I don't know who possibly could be. He's lost the plot, He's lost his mind, and he's lost his grasp on reality. I have been watching since BB season 2, and only opted out last year, intentionally taking a break just to see how Id go (was I actually addicted, or could I take it or leave it? LOL. Verdict? never watched BB20, never missed it!)

                    Oh, but I'm *very* much watching this year and I cannot think of any other house guest in all of BB history, actually expecting anyone to agree to *multiple* deals while basically offering the other person........ nothing. The quintessential moment of this (and how to choose, there were so many!) was after telling Jackson that they had a *mutual* final two deal, later revising that, and Cliff~ who *really* felt like he needed to clear up one of those pesky little deal condition details, and making Jackson aware that, while he himself would only choose to take Nicole to final two should he win the competitions ( -fat chance- longshot), *he fully expects Jackson to remain true to HIS half of the deal and take Cliff to Fnale Night*

                    HAS HE FORGOTTEN WHO HE'S TALKING TO????

                    Is he on drugs?? What kind of new blood pressure/cholesterol medication is he taking, a virulent side effect of which divests him of his ability to reason? I wonder.
                    It seems that Cliff has completely and totally, again unfathomably forgotten that Jackson is all about the loyalty!! I cannot fathom is that Cliff, who usually manifests a brain cell or two, and like most rational adults his age, is fully capable ~at least normally~ of seeing around corners and reading between lines. But Cliff is no longer normal. It's like he's trying to swim upstream with only one arm. Only this is worse. *How* is it that he has not put together the two most crucial puzzle pieces, 1. he and Nicole had to be talked out of, and lied out of, and guilted out of..... not throwing Holly under the bus. And Jackson holds them partially ~ big-time partially~ responsible for what he felt he had to do to Tommy, to keep Holly safe. I do believe that, emotionally, that cost Jackson dearly because again, his affection for Tommy is genuine. (Turns out Tommy may be on Broadway but Jackson is the better actor)..
                    But back to the puzzle. And 2. Again, loyalty to deals made when keeping the deal is not going to affect your game negativel..... to Jackson, is like totally a matter of honor and integrity. And I can't blame him because he and Holly did keep them safe for weeks and weeks! It's not like they promised, and then never even had a chance to fulfill it. They fulfilled their promise like crazy and the very first time the other two have the opportunity to honor their end of the final four they get all tottery, threatening to fold like cheap chairs.

                    So Cliff is certifiably crazy if he doesn't see where this is going. He gave himself the death penalty, but still fails to see the crime he committed. Does he not think Jackson is fully aware of how close they came to keeping Tommy, and to Jackson, the fact that Cliff and Nicole even *considered* dumping Holly and breaking their final four deal..... was the actual deal-breaker for Jackson. At that point, for Jackson, although he really genuinely likes them personally, Nicole and Cliff game-wise are literally dead to him. And only Jackson's arguably half brilliantly conceived/ half dirtiest trick in the BB book, saved his girlfriend from that long long walk to the jury house.

                    Now, is it editing, or is Nicole also in a state of unbelievable stupifaction about these issues?? How do either of them think for a moment that Jackson would turn on his true blue girl, or think for a moment, that Holly still owes them her second born child,, after totally, and against every fiber of her being, keeping her word and giving them her first born? I truly have never seen such arrogance, hand in hand with such ignorance in all of Big Brother deal-making history.
                    How stupid does anybody have to be to believe that. Jackson after such a betrayal, will still be taking them to final 3 and final 2, over someone who not only never betrayed him but happens to be his showmance and loyal girlfriend??? Cliff is a fool to believe him at this point, and richly deserves to go. Which, happily, and this is nothing personal, he will do tonight.
                    Just remember one thing, Cliff, because it's the cardinal rule broken by very few evictees, past and present.
                    *DON'T HUG JULIE!!*

                    • Jason Rose
                      Jason Rose  2 months back

                      Sir Brent, Rob and Jenny on this podcast, unbelievable Cliff making deals left right and centre, asking Holly to save him over Jackson in the final 4 Veto if Holly wins! Does Cliff release that Holly and Jackson will talk this through! Why didn't Nicole point this fact out?
                      On to the Veto is it set up for Jackass Jackson...? But before this, there is a luxury $10.000 competition, the first and quickest player that notices the changes within the house. Holly and Jackson sort of working together, Jackson ring in first with 17, Nicole second with 16, Holly with 17 and Cliff with 17. And the answer is 18 and Jackson wins $10.000.
                      Now back to the question in hand, did production favour Jackson and make this Veto competition for him? The Veto involves a slingshot with a ball having to hit facial targets of this seasons house guests, with questions asked! This wasn't the typical remembering day's competition, in this competition you had to be more physically fit than mentally smart... So yes the answer is this competition favoured Jackson! And the winning of this Veto is... Yes, you guess it Jackson sorry there's no $10.000 prize, maybe Rob will run a competition for the fans that involves a cash prize.
                      Cliff done in this game with Nicole being HOH she is safe, Jackson will send Cliff to the Jury house. But Cliff is putting in the work telling Jackson that he will lose his and Nicole vote in the final! Predicated on Jackson and Holly reaching the final 2, looks like JR eating humble pie for tea if you know what I said!
                      The $500.000 question, is Holly prepared to cut The Jackass Jackson at final 2? Please make it so... That would be the winning move I would have no problem with Holly winning if she doe's this move. The look on Jackson's face would be priceless, would Holly make that move? Strong island better pull up her socks and win part 1 or part 2, let's hope so many saying that she won't win either.
                      Christie should come clutch and revert back to type, not to give The Jackass a cent! I see Christie, Kat, Jessica, possibly Cliff and Nicole voting Holly. I see Nick, Tommy, Analyse and the other half of the Jackasses Jack voting for Jackson. Of course, this is subject to change, I CANNOT SEE CHRISTIE VOTING OF JACKSON NO WAY!
                      On to the panellist, JR has been rude not to give them a mention, yes panel what is Cliff doing with these deals! It was cringing, maybe Cliff got sunstroke or something else. But as I said why didn't Nicole say something to Cliff prior to talking to Holly and Jackson? Cliff was like someone who drew up a contract and then decided that he wanted to make his own amendments to the contract and clauses within it, unbelievable! Yes, the panellist are absolutely right that Jackson played and badgered her into a decision that wasn't in Hollys best interest. Is it an inside BB fans joke about the stool, yuck I didn't need to hear that... Leaving people feeling even more sick about Jackass Jackson!
                      Jenny is funny I like her is she Canadian? If so does Rob have enough room on the rooster for Ms Canada as well as Jenny LOL? Who will get America favourite player, probably Nicole or Kemi good choice! Rob knows the price of watermelons, I thought he would just send someone to the store to shop for him. Yes Sir Brent Wolgamott thank you for saying the Veto was set up for Jackson! Jenny said that Cliff was already sweating before the Veto competition started. Yes, Brent, the final 4 Veto has always been a mental competition! Yes the BBUS edit is biased absolutely towards Jackson! Doe's BBUS want a Jackson win, you would think so by the way the editing is done for him or maybe BBUS have employed Jackson mum as editing director LOL. No one surely wants a Jackson win I certainly don't, will Jackson arch-nemesis Christie play a hand in his downfall?
                      No Rob BBUS wasn't trying to make the Veto competition more entertaining, BBUS could have still made the questions harder, they were Jackson friendly questions! Congratulations on who said that BBUS wanted a Tyler win on last years show! I am thankful that Teatime wasn't around at that moment. I to like Brent got it wrong on keeping Holly, but that was predicated on assuming that the final 4 Veto was a mental rather than a more physically demanding one. Cliff crumbles in the end, this games very taxing, I  am not surprised good podcast enjoyed this one immensely. 10\10 That's a first.

                      • JILL Carter
                        JILL Carter  2 months back

                        Cliff and nicole should sue Jackson and holly and mommy

                        • MsPrice1017
                          MsPrice1017  2 months back

                          The Offie Awards

                          • Donna McDaniel
                            Donna McDaniel  2 months back

                            Double eviction is the key and imo that is the moment C and N messed up,, clearly Jackson was the biggest target in the game and I feel they were all on equal playing field at that point !!! But then to back it up and not take out the showmance is just unheard of and I understand it’s here and gone but this never really got discussed as much as it should’ve unless I completely missed y’all giving your options on this play !!!

                            • Donna McDaniel
                              Donna McDaniel  2 months back

                              But Brent your comment about production helping them all when hg aren’t reading directions clearly I agree maybe they do help them all,,, but how do we know the time difference maybe the helped Jackson sooner then they helped Nicole? And the time difference is so close so I don’t think production should ever help them, this is why we get conspiracy theories!!!

                              • Josie Whales
                                Josie Whales  2 months back

                                Listen....Holly and Jerkson are splitting the cash

                                • JILL Carter
                                  JILL Carter  2 months back

                                  Jackson No he won't his give holly money Jackson's is greedy .

                              • April Bryant
                                April Bryant  2 months back

                                Two things:
                                1- maybe Cliff hasn’t been playing a good game this entire time and we just never knew because he never had the opportunity. EXCEPT that one deal he made with Christie, which could have just worked out to benefit him.
                                2- A “great game” isn’t always about wining comps. Nicole was on the verge of being voted out and although she was saved, she still strategized along the way with other people to help further her game. She’s in the final 3 because she played the game. While someone else is in the final 3 because of her BF.

                                • Josie Whales
                                  Josie Whales  2 months back

                                  I'm not keeping you but I expect you to hold up your end of the bargain, Lol he sounded like a idiot,Cliff he didn't even know you 80 days ago.....Your gone....Cliff blew it at Tommy's eviction,Tommy was like a girl,He wasn't competition

                                  • john dean
                                    john dean  2 months back

                                    36:00

                                    • Josie Whales
                                      Josie Whales  2 months back

                                      He was having a mental breakdown if he really believed that

                                  • finejustgivemeaname
                                    finejustgivemeaname  2 months back

                                    I swear, Brent is such a NAMBLA member. That dude is creepy af

                                    • Josie Whales
                                      Josie Whales  2 months back

                                      Cliff's a Nerd,Nobody in jury house is going to pay attention to the old man,Jackson should just say I dont care Cliff and act like he doesn't care

                                      • Jonn L.
                                        Jonn L.  2 months back

                                        lol you ageist pos pipsqueek.

                                    • Val Baynes
                                      Val Baynes  2 months back

                                      they are so stupid they should have got Mickey and that girl is out long time ago when they had the chance so they can forget about that 💰😂

                                      • Above the trees 716
                                        Above the trees 716  2 months back

                                        Jackson favorite song- Ozzy “Mamma, mamma I’m coming home”

                                        • NICK Van DAM
                                          NICK Van DAM  2 months back

                                          I don't get the complaints other than trying to find something to talk about. Cliff seems to just be trying everything and anything to try to stay. He's lost but he hasn't given up. Good for him

                                          • Bluemorpho28 the gamecat
                                            Bluemorpho28 the gamecat  2 months back

                                            Says y'all way too much when hes lying

                                            • Jeff Wallace
                                              Jeff Wallace  2 months back

                                              Jackson will do it for good tv!!!

                                              • Violet
                                                Violet  2 months back

                                                Jackson’s mom probably donated the $10,000 prize money for the luxury comp

                                                • Sage
                                                  Sage  2 months back

                                                  It’s gonna be satisfying to see that Cliff will be going home. He had two opportunities with Christy and Tommy to play to the finally and now it’s gonna get rub in his face when Michie sends him home. 🙂All is right again with the Universe.

                                                • maggie198333
                                                  maggie198333  2 months back

                                                  The most amazing ending will be Holly winning the final HOH, evicting Jackson, and then Nicole winning BB21

                                                  • Wiser1FOREVER
                                                    Wiser1FOREVER  2 months back

                                                    I remember the conversation where Michie actually was guilt tripping Holly! I believe it was about how she was acting like his past relationships that didn't work out! He didn't like how she was talking to him, showing him no respect or words to that effect! I actually would have re-watch that episode, which I'm NOT going to do, just to get the specific words said!

                                                  • Erin DeMoulin
                                                    Erin DeMoulin  2 months back

                                                    Will never happen !

                                                  • mavs girl
                                                    mavs girl  2 months back

                                                    Holly is in an emotional abusive relationship. There is not one single chance that Holly will drop Jackson.

                                                • maggie198333
                                                  maggie198333  2 months back

                                                  49:34 didn’t see that coming huh Brent? 😂

                                                  • maggie198333
                                                    maggie198333  2 months back

                                                    31:17 Norman Bates anyone?

                                                    • SantosZox
                                                      SantosZox  2 months back

                                                      Why dont they talk about Tyler cutting Angela when they are discussing the history of people cutting their showmance at the end. Tyler would have won if he went to final two with Angela.

                                                      • TheMurrmursonbottle
                                                        TheMurrmursonbottle  2 months back

                                                        because usually people cut their showmance so they CAN win, not so they can screw themselves

                                                    • Julie
                                                      Julie  2 months back

                                                      Great panel tonight!

                                                      • Azhar Iqbal
                                                        Azhar Iqbal  2 months back

                                                        OMG.. Rob's Jackson's mom impression is the best XD

                                                        • anamarieus
                                                          anamarieus  2 months back

                                                          "where's mama"

                                                          • anamarieus
                                                            anamarieus  2 months back

                                                            "where's mama"

                                                            • anamarieus
                                                              anamarieus  2 months back

                                                              Brent is funny af😂😂😂

                                                              • temeculajoe
                                                                temeculajoe  2 months back

                                                                I have watched since season 1 and this by far is the worst group. Boring and vapid as hell

                                                                • anamarieus
                                                                  anamarieus  2 months back

                                                                  wow have y'all watched feeds tonight? cliff is funny as hell threatening Jerkson with jury votes. got up under jerkson's skin😂😂😂😂😂 Beth being all quiet gonna try to swoop in an take the money if she's sitting beside him.

                                                                  jerkson hasn't even taken into consideration Beth could win!! I'm glad clifcole are fighting back!!! good on them.

                                                                  • packerd00
                                                                    packerd00  2 months back

                                                                    So another bitter jury

                                                                    • MissJane777
                                                                      MissJane777  2 months back

                                                                      *Please stop having Jenny on! Do you watch her podcasts?!?! They're awful! Just full of ums, like, and more ums. Just no. Sorry. She isn't a fluent speaker like Rob, Brent, Taran, Melissa, etc. I suck at public speaking as well and would make a horrible podcast person. But I just can NOT listen to any podcasts with her on it because it drives me nuts. Sorry. Just the truth. Best of luck.*

                                                                      • darling
                                                                        darling  2 months back

                                                                        What?? Jenny actually has a brain and opinions and is engaging unlike Liana and Melissa who just state the obvious.

                                                                      • GamerAtty123 4
                                                                        GamerAtty123 4  2 months back

                                                                        U will start the bet on the stool at a dollar.

                                                                      • AND1ALLDAY
                                                                        AND1ALLDAY  2 months back

                                                                        Here's an Idea dont watch it. Im sure they dont want you watching anyway if your gunna insult thier friends.

                                                                      • SantosZox
                                                                        SantosZox  2 months back

                                                                        Hmm I have to disagree she has been a pleasure to listen to. I think you are experiencing a case of selective hearing or something.

                                                                      • Julie
                                                                        Julie  2 months back

                                                                        Jenny is very articulate, unlike Melissa, who rants in circles (Melissa admitted so herself).

                                                                    • Brandi Lynn
                                                                      Brandi Lynn  2 months back

                                                                      They should have evicted Holly. Tommy would have still thrown the HOH to Nicole. And if Mitchie still wins the Veto, I feel like there's a good chance he eliminates Tommy instead of Cliff. Then Cliff and Nicole would have at least made F3 together.

                                                                      • Josie Whales
                                                                        Josie Whales  2 months back

                                                                        Exactly, Cliff screwed that up,That's what Nichole wanted

                                                                    • Theresa Eads
                                                                      Theresa Eads  2 months back

                                                                      So Jackson admitted on live feeds that BB helped him win (before tonight’s episode). Sure looked like tonight’s episode confirmed this because Jackson really did bad.

                                                                      • Sharon Mashatt
                                                                        Sharon Mashatt  2 months back

                                                                        Nichole won that by far. Jackson is a POS mamas boy. Big brother has lost a lot of viewers this year pushing along this jerk. He is a racist bigot and I hope Cliff does taint the jury. I want to see Jackson cry when he loses

                                                                    • Kristian Yeager
                                                                      Kristian Yeager  2 months back

                                                                      I loved seeing Nicole cry after winning HOH and Michie cry after winning POV. It’s my favorite thing ever to see how passionate superfans are to win this game.

                                                                    • Persephone’s Pomegranate

                                                                      The threatening jury votes as a strategy may not typically work but there is a (very) small chance it works now coming off of 3 consecutive years of “bitter juries” (last year’s is debatable IMO but I think the HGs consider it a bitter jury). They’ve talked a lot in the house how both Paul & Tyler should’ve won.

                                                                      But I agree with Brent, they needed to be working this angle days ago, listing names & bringing receipts. They waited too long and failed at execution.

                                                                      The added difference this year that they could’ve used is that Holly & Jackson isolated themselves almost completely from all of the jury members for the second half of the game, after the big blow up the night Sam went home. So, the jury hasn’t seen what we have.

                                                                      They may believe that Holly is equal to Jackson strategically but is nicer and wants to craft a platform for helping young girls so hey, we’ll give her the confetti.

                                                                      I do think Holly has a decent chance to win in a showmance finale BUT her final speech may be her downfall. This is the first season where I can see jury members legitimately changing their minds / votes on finale night (eg Christie & Tommy may want to vote for Holly but if she blows her speech, the fan in them may sway them to give it to Jackson). We’ll see...

                                                                      • AND1ALLDAY
                                                                        AND1ALLDAY  2 months back

                                                                        The plan is dumb. If hes already doesnt have 3 votes now he evicts Holly. Goes to end wins the final HOH because now he would have too.Takes 1 of them to the end. He still has to sit beside the other and lose that other vote anyway and still have 3 votes against him. So still 4 votes against and he doesnt know how Holly gunna react. Its stupid he would still think he had 5 votes against him.

                                                                      • Persephone’s Pomegranate
                                                                        Persephone’s Pomegranate  2 months back

                                                                        THGQueen yeah there’s absolutely a fair argument to be made there. Same with last season - I think Tyler’s game was too hidden from the jury, only revealed fully in the DR to us, and he tanked his final speech (although I think everyone had their minds made up already, but if he was brilliant in his measly 1 minute of allotted time, perhaps he could’ve swayed another vote or two).

                                                                        But the perception of a lot of casual viewers (which is most of the house who aren’t recruits) is that it’s been 3 straight years of bitter juries. Cliff probably knows better but Jackson doesn’t. Anyway, Cliff screwed up too much already this week so the plan won’t work but I see an alternate world where it just might have. I like this alternate world.

                                                                      • Persephone’s Pomegranate
                                                                        Persephone’s Pomegranate  2 months back

                                                                        Josie Whales yeah you’re probably right about that one. But I’m still hoping Holly’s friends give her an awakening once she’s out of the house and she leaves Beth (the worse parts of her personality) and Jackson behind. She’s been insufferable these past two weeks in particular but so has Cliff. I still have faith that she can rebuild herself positively coming out of this, with the right people surrounding her (ie no gaslighters allowed).

                                                                      • Josie Whales
                                                                        Josie Whales  2 months back

                                                                        Holly and Jerkson are splitting the money

                                                                      • THGQueen
                                                                        THGQueen  2 months back

                                                                        I disagree on Big Brother 18, Nicole played a stronger game then Paul that season, who wouldn't of gotten to the end without Victor coming back twice, and going out two times for him.

                                                                    • George Acun
                                                                      George Acun  2 months back

                                                                      The fix is in for Jackson

                                                                      • Wiser1FOREVER
                                                                        Wiser1FOREVER  2 months back

                                                                        Now you're discussing that which is pointless! Bye!

                                                                        • Wiser1FOREVER
                                                                          Wiser1FOREVER  2 months back

                                                                          Mystery times posted, are easily changed to reflect the show runners desires! Live clocks should be present for these type of competitions! Pass it along!