Joker Director Finally Explains That Last Crucial Scene

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  • Published: 08 October 2019
  • Arthur Fleck's biggest joke just might be the one he pulled on you. Joker director Todd Phillips recently made a few very interesting comments to the Los Angeles Times about the final scene of the movie comments that imply a bizarre truth about the story being presented. In case that's not warning enough, be advised that major spoilers for Joker lie ahead.

    Joaquin Phoenix's Arthur is depicted early and often as having a tenuous grip on reality. The film eventually lets on that it's not always clear which events are fantasy and which are reality not to the audience, and presumably not to Arthur.

    At the end, Arthur is seen with his psychiatrist in Arkham State Hospital after he has apparently killed his mother, incited a riot, shot Murray Franklin on live television, and escaped from police custody with the help of his clown-masked followers. As the shrink attempts to question him, Arthur simply laughs, telling her that she wouldn't get the joke. According to Phillips, it's this particular laugh that might hold a clue about the true nature of the story that just unfolded. He explained,

    "That laugh in that scene is really the only time he laughs genuinely. There are different laughs in the movie. There is the laugh from Arthur's affliction and then there is his fake laugh when he's trying to be 'one of the people,' which is my favorite laugh. But at the end, when he's in the room at Arkham State Hospital, that's his only genuine laugh in the movie."

    Why is that, exactly? Well, perhaps because in the end, the joke is on us, the audience. Phillips has said that one of the main influences on his film was The Killing Joke, the acclaimed 1988 graphic novel in which the Joker says that if he must have a past, he, quote, "[prefers] it to be multiple choice." The director made a direct allusion to this dialogue in suggesting that as many fans have speculated Arthur Fleck might not necessarily be who we think he is. Phillips said,

    "There are lots of ways you could look at this movie. You could look at it and go, 'This is just one of his multiple-choice stories. None of it happened.' I don't want to say what it is. But a lot of people I've shown it to have said, 'Oh, I get it he's just made up a story. The whole movie is the joke. It's this thing this guy in Arkham Asylum concocted. He might not even be the Joker.'"

    Phillips went on to state outright that the man who will become Batman's nemesis may simply be in the background somewhere, watching all of these events play out. He said,

    "Maybe Joaquin's character inspired the Joker. You don't really know. His last line in the movie is, 'You wouldn't get it.' There's a lot going on in there that's interesting."

    Phoenix himself also explained that Joker can be seen not so much as a straightforward narrative, but as a series of suggestions. Keep watching the video to see that the Joker director finally explains that last crucial scene!

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Comments • 4 974

  • Looper
    Looper   3 months back

    How much of Joker do you think really happened in the movie? Which parts?

    • Ian Hayes
      Ian Hayes  5 days back

      Probably none of it i mean every time there is a clock shown in the back ground the hands dont move and they are all set to the same time

    • tom slick
      tom slick  1 weeks back

      @Armando Mendoza thats fake to
      Thus the hazy chasing. Or maybe not. But the clock thing is the tell.

    • tom slick
      tom slick  1 weeks back

      The clock and its time is the same in the asylum and the socialist office

    • tom slick
      tom slick  1 weeks back

      None the clock and its time are the same in the asylum and the socialist office. Hes making up a story.

    • babineaux
      babineaux  2 weeks back

      Paranoid0147 also when dancing the stairs he throws away his sigaret and then one shot later he is smoking a new one all the sudden.

  • Matt Albert
    Matt Albert  5 hours back

    For all the idiots saying this isn't a DC Films movie are morons. It was Produced by DC Films. Google it

    • Gary M
      Gary M  13 hours back

      I dont get why people have such a hard time understanding different interpretations. Why are folk so obsessed with "the real joker?" So obsessed with black and white, batman v joker blandness...

      • Zeynep Unsal
        Zeynep Unsal  15 hours back

        Maybe Arthur is the father of the joker

        • knoble1985
          knoble1985  15 hours back

          The proof is in the title i suppose!

          • colleen mcnally
            colleen mcnally  23 hours back

            Nope he is the joker and he has clown things and does kill people not a harmless man I'm mental ward in his imaginary world. That would mean he didn't ever need to act it out his own mind is satisfied in his own room. Like to think as it happens for real.

            • Erika
              Erika  1 days back

              wait but.. Joker and Batman are half-brothers

              • Trevor G
                Trevor G  2 days back

                I feel like the laugh after he kills Murray was genuine

                • Absybad
                  Absybad  2 days back

                  _The Biggest Joke of The Movie Is That The Movie Itself Is A Joke._

                  • John Wright
                    John Wright  3 days back

                    Scenes of him wearing the brown jacket is fake. Surely im not the only one who noticed this

                    • John Wright
                      John Wright  3 days back

                      I read where that the scenes where joker uses his left hand is fake and the right hand is real. But what about the brown jacket my peoples. It appears alot is true, alot is fake. The joker created Batman and the Batman is a rich prick according to the Jokers perspective but let's not be manipulated to believe evil. If this is a version of the real joker than regardless or not that the Batman turns into a rich prick defending justice. The joker is still a sick, dimented, murderer

                      • John Wright
                        John Wright  3 days back

                        This is easy. Everything is the movie where joker wears a brown jacket is fake. Everything else is real

                        • Brantley Smith
                          Brantley Smith  3 days back

                          No!!! This is the realest joker ever portrayed or even written about!!! Jack Nicholson's doesn't even compare!

                          • Erik Freeman
                            Erik Freeman  3 days back

                            I prefer to think he is the real joker

                            • TheJonas973
                              TheJonas973  3 days back

                              Personally, I feel the fact that the movie has you think a little for yourself is a good part of its appeal. It leaves a bit to the imagination rather than just being clear cut, just the way Joker would want it I think. But my take on the ending was yes everything happened except him killing her at the end which is what he was laughing about and explains why she "wouldn't get it"

                              • chibulls 1
                                chibulls 1  4 days back

                                Let me save you 4 minutes. It might be fake.

                                • brian janson
                                  brian janson  4 days back

                                  Thank god Todd Phillips isn't going to merge this world with Batman. This movie is a serious drama like Taxi Driver.

                                  • Fausta Castaneda
                                    Fausta Castaneda  6 days back

                                    Could you introduce me as Joker? Definitely not!

                                    • Redstar2613
                                      Redstar2613  7 days back

                                      5 minutes ago I thought this was the best movie of 2019... now it's the most disappointing movie I've ever seen. I wish I never watched this video...

                                      • Zalazar
                                        Zalazar  7 days back

                                        Great movie, good luck making a sequel tho

                                        • Destroyer Vids
                                          Destroyer Vids  7 days back

                                          0:46 u forgot killing randal

                                          • kate
                                            kate  1 weeks back

                                            what an ingenious story-a good adult movie with great acting.

                                            • Joe Felice
                                              Joe Felice  1 weeks back

                                              Joker’s only real laugh is right after he shoot’s Murray.

                                              • tom slick
                                                tom slick  1 weeks back

                                                None . The clock tells us that

                                                • paul w
                                                  paul w  1 weeks back

                                                  it's inspiration, Scorsese's "King of Comedy" also did this......

                                                  • Yelena Banshchikova
                                                    Yelena Banshchikova  1 weeks back

                                                    This movie is a future cult classic. Or at least it should be :)

                                                    • Benzimaru
                                                      Benzimaru  1 weeks back

                                                      So he said that the person who would become the joker might be in the background and will be inspired by fleck. I wouldn’t be surprised if I’m the new Batman movies, the joker is revealed and he mentions Arthur by name.

                                                      • nosuchthing8
                                                        nosuchthing8  2 weeks back

                                                        Now that Joker has a golden globe award and has made over a billion dollars, there will be pressure to fit the joker and batman we see together. Perhaps batman is in a coma for a decade, captain american style, to lessen the effective age gap.

                                                        • nikto45
                                                          nikto45  2 weeks back

                                                          Well, if you start arguing that the movie is not about the "real" Joker then that is just dumb. The movie mentions Thomas and Bruce Wayne. It mentions Gotham. The director is being dishonest because for all intensive purposes he intended Arthur Fleck to be the Joker, but a re-telling of the origin story. Todd Phillips is just thumbing his nose at the audience now

                                                          • softserve
                                                            softserve  1 weeks back

                                                            "For all intents and purposes" would be the phrase you're looking for.

                                                        • Justin Tansley
                                                          Justin Tansley  2 weeks back

                                                          Sadly, as much as I hate the theory that this is not the real Joker, the timelines would be impossible. In the comics the Joker is only a few years older than Bruce. In this world, Fleck is already around 40 Years old when Bruce is a young boy. It wouldn't work. :(

                                                          • Justin Tansley
                                                            Justin Tansley  2 weeks back

                                                            This low key pisses me off

                                                            • The Rebel 2396
                                                              The Rebel 2396  2 weeks back

                                                              It doesn’t make sense to have Arthur imagining....imagining having a girlfriend.

                                                              • Павел Смирнов

                                                                Unlikely

                                                                • PM ScroMo
                                                                  PM ScroMo  2 weeks back

                                                                  For me, this was The Arthur Fleck Movie.

                                                                  • PM ScroMo
                                                                    PM ScroMo  2 weeks back

                                                                    I thought there were 3 jokers.

                                                                    • abendroid
                                                                      abendroid  2 weeks back

                                                                      So its like MGSV, Venom isn't the real Snake?

                                                                      • Strummer1980
                                                                        Strummer1980  2 weeks back

                                                                        It's not that he imagined what happened in just this film, he'd been sat in the asylum imagining the contents of all of the comic books and previous films and at the end of this film we are at a time when all of that has already happened in his head

                                                                        • Ps4Lord Slayer
                                                                          Ps4Lord Slayer  3 weeks back

                                                                          It was all inside his head I'm telling it.

                                                                          • Isaiah Sparkman
                                                                            Isaiah Sparkman  3 weeks back

                                                                            Even if he made it up in his head, he’s definitely joker. Joker even in the cartoons and comic books had no grip on reality. The battles of joker and Batman could all be in his head. It’s just a deep deep story that takes a lot of knowing and understanding.

                                                                            • rollo316
                                                                              rollo316  3 weeks back

                                                                              I don't like the idea of Arthur being the influence of the joker. If Arthur really isn't the joker I hope he's just some mentally unstable person who fantasised about being the joker after befriending him in Arkham. Maybe the riots and Murray being killed really did happen but Arthur fantasised that it was his doing when it was really the real joker ?.

                                                                              I hope they just stick with Arthur being the joker

                                                                              • Anthony Zukas
                                                                                Anthony Zukas  3 weeks back

                                                                                Movie was good but I can't help but feel like this movie used the joker name to reel people in and only for that reason. Seems to me it was created with very little incentive to contribute to the original work. You could have easily made this movie it's own project not linked at all to DC or Batman and it would have easily been a much better movie. I just don't see the relevance or point of making a backstory for a character that wasn't supposed to have one. Also the issues depicted represent the perception of real world issues never addressed in Batman. It's very heavy handed on rich and poor and government which mirror real world issues never intended to be part of Batman. that's all fine in a movie but it's just another example why it's not the Batman universe

                                                                                • GR1M_ RE4PER
                                                                                  GR1M_ RE4PER  3 weeks back

                                                                                  Film theory was kinda right

                                                                                  • John Doe
                                                                                    John Doe  3 weeks back

                                                                                    Bs

                                                                                    • sahin
                                                                                      sahin  3 weeks back

                                                                                      Even if it were a story, still that doesn't make it any less significant. A powerful story by joker.

                                                                                      • Yashaswi Harsh Yadav
                                                                                        Yashaswi Harsh Yadav  3 weeks back

                                                                                        What if he's a real Joker that is in future when Burce is Batman. He somehow know batsy real identity. So he just made up all things on how bruce became batman

                                                                                        • TJP
                                                                                          TJP  3 weeks back

                                                                                          I do not buy that Arthur made up the events in the movie or that it was all in his head - being told to the psychiatrist at the end - and here's why: there would be no reason for Arthur to reveal that his relationship with Sophie was all in his head, in fact if he was lying about himself being joker and the events that took place, it would make 0 sense to reveal that he never actually had a relationship with her. It would be a lie within a lie.

                                                                                          If the movie is just a narration of him telling this made-up story, then why would he reveal that "oh, and my relationship with this woman was all in my head - everything else really happened though I swear"

                                                                                          • Kieren Campbell
                                                                                            Kieren Campbell  3 weeks back

                                                                                            Congratulations on saying absolutely nothing for most of this video.

                                                                                            • Vadym Volodko
                                                                                              Vadym Volodko  3 weeks back

                                                                                              I am sure you should looking for CinemaVariety if you want to watch cinema movies this year