Psionics Wizard & Spells in D&D's Unearthed Arcana

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  • titsofbrass
    titsofbrass  3 weeks back

    hey question if i am a tortle and use shell defense before using thought form do i still keep my 21 ac while in that form and does thought travel work while in shell defense to hover and move while still in shell throw in blindfighting for blind sight and does the astra arms from the monk work while still in the shell

    • Lucitaur
      Lucitaur  1 months back

      Or why simply not give us Psion/Mystic as a class?
      That makes sense from both crunch (I personally dislike spell slots, so a point based casting would be great for people like me) and fluff (magic is already everywhere in D&D, so having something that is like magic, but NOT it would actually add a breath of fresh air) points of view.

      Or at least make psionic subclasses for Sorcerers and Warlocks (makes more sense than for Wizards anyway)! >_>

      • steve Stevenson
        steve Stevenson  1 months back

        i dont want to hear psionic as wizard subclass. We want psionics as a new class. it has always been so.

        • Ian McPherson
          Ian McPherson  1 months back

          The Monk class has always clashed with the medieval fantasy setting of D&D.
          How about we give the Fighter an empty-hand subclass with the Monks abilities (Martial Artist), and create a monk-themed psionic class called Mystic instead?

          • Deadseven
            Deadseven  1 months back

            Monks only clash with the setting if you want them to; there are a variety of martial arts from around the world, and while monks definitely have eastern influence, it would not be hard to design your monk as a something based on european fighting styles.
            Unrelated note, one of their earlier UA updates, class variants, adds an unarmed fighting style to fighter, paladin, and ranger, so... yea.

        • Stephen A
          Stephen A  1 months back

          Begone THOUGHT!!!!!!

          • joseph stalin
            joseph stalin  1 months back

            Finally, the mystic is dead. My table will know balance once again.

            The Revived Rogue: Allow me to introduce myself

            • Pavel Urban
              Pavel Urban  1 months back

              I was looking forward to the psionic in DnD 5E and I was worried at the same time (since I saw some of the "psionic" monsters using spells). Unfortunatelly, my worries came true. Psionics should not be magic (Dark sun anyone?). This is a very bad concept. I am so disapointed. Sorry. :(

              • Adrianne Deleon
                Adrianne Deleon  1 months back

                It's hard to understand where they are going, but for 3.5 Extended Psionics Handbook, I loved how much it has for psionics. The list for this version they're describing sadly seems a little nerfed in my opinion, especially since 3.5 allows full creativity of you powers (equivalent to spells), especially the Psion class, and the boost of prestige classes to go along with it.

                Plus, adding psionics to multiclass into wizard is even better, because you can be both potent in spells casted, and have a surplus of power points to use.

                Perhaps people are right that psionics are OP, but it really changes the game :D

                • BokehBard
                  BokehBard  1 months back

                  My space wizard channeling force and psychic abilities through a khyber crystal.

                  • kayin Soape
                    kayin Soape  1 months back

                    So is this wizard school of magic the wu jen discipline from the mystic, as the soul knife rouge is from the soul knife discipline? Also if yall are splitting up the mystic disciplines when will we be seeing the nomad an immortal disciplines in classes or will we actually be seeing the mystic class?

                    • N L
                      N L  2 months back

                      If you cast Magic Missile as a 10th level Psionics Wizards, does Empowered Psionics add your Intelligence modifier to the damage dealt by each missile, or does it add this damage once to one target? Basically, I'm asking if Empowered Psionics behaves like Empowered Evocation for the Magic Missile spell.

                      • [Nightlock]
                        [Nightlock]  2 months back

                        Looking at the comments below, I can see that there is a sharp divide of outlook on this topic, even when looking back at earlier versions of dungeons and dragons.
                        Are psionics magic? Are they not? To me, they kind of are, but not exactly. Think of it this way.
                        Psionics are magic in the sense that they are of mystical, immaterial energies. In the same way, qi for monks is in a sort of way also magical, but not exactly, because qi is mystical and immaterial energies of the body.
                        But, neither class is about casting *spells*, but rather abilities fueled by an immaterial source of power. Hence, not specifically magical, but definitely mystical.
                        I'm not sure if that makes sense, but that seems to be the cause for the strange disconnect in this class that many seem to be feeling. I find it fascinating, yet equally odd, myself. I kind of would have liked a nice, rebalanced Mystic instead but hey, it's okay to try something new.

                        • Mr.13
                          Mr.13  2 months back

                          Rename The Mystic the Occultist.
                          Balance it into a class focused on psychic damage and single target control spells.
                          Psionics is magic in the same Divine magic is magic, AKA: Energy is energy regardless of the form it takes.
                          Lean into the Lovecraftian with Psionics in general rather then the Professor X vibes.

                          Why is this such a task?

                          • Brandon Harry
                            Brandon Harry  2 months back

                            I don't really like psionics being a form of magic, I prefered when they were destinctly different things.

                            • James B
                              James B  2 months back

                              They are both mysterious arts... Just flavor them different.👍

                          • Scott Woods
                            Scott Woods  2 months back

                            NO!!! make a psionic class with subclasses! NOT wizards with Psionics! Improve unearthed arcana psionic class!

                            • Cody Brandley
                              Cody Brandley  2 months back

                              "they turn themselves into pure thought"
                              lots of redditors thinking this is the class that is "literally them" unironically hurts me to my core

                              • Zackary W
                                Zackary W  2 months back

                                Does the Psionic Wizard get psionic spellcasting in their physical form or just their thoughtform?

                                • Maxamumdes
                                  Maxamumdes  2 months back

                                  This is honestly as big a mistake as when they tried to make the artificer a subclass. I like the other subclasses but this right here is a mistake to take the entire class and shove it into one tradition.

                                  • JediNiyte
                                    JediNiyte  2 months back

                                    This new way of handling psionics is just messy. All over the map, and I don't like it.

                                    • V2Blast
                                      V2Blast  2 months back

                                      Haven't understood the community reaction to this video. Literally nothing in this video suggests that this is the only psionic content we'd ever get. At 5:48, Crawford just lists off a bunch of things in this UA, past UA, and published content that would fit a psionic theme. That does not in any way suggest that there will not be any other psionic content published in the future.

                                      • The Shoddiest
                                        The Shoddiest  2 months back

                                        The new sorcerer subclass needs these new spells in their subclass spell list.

                                        • Vladimiro Lourenço
                                          Vladimiro Lourenço  2 months back

                                          Would a psionic focus work as a spellcasting focus to spells that don't use a wizard's spellbook (multiclassing)?

                                          • usernamedkjah
                                            usernamedkjah  2 months back

                                            He looks very...Thanos in this. Don't let him snap, Crawford!!!

                                            • Robert DeBroeck
                                              Robert DeBroeck  2 months back

                                              I love the abilities of this Wizard Tradition! That said, I do hope that there will still be a psionic Mystic class. The Mystic is a unique narrative type of character. It's awesome to see a wizard focusing on psionics and arcane power together, but a full Psionic class is a much hoped for official material release for me.

                                              • Arlyz Helyel
                                                Arlyz Helyel  2 months back

                                                Finally some new feats ^^

                                                • Gamin' Reasons
                                                  Gamin' Reasons  2 months back

                                                  You know, Wizards that delve into Psionics in addition to their Arcane Studies aren't unheard of, but they are not deserving of the title "Psionicist". That title belongs to those who use Psionics exclusively.

                                                  • Dust to Dust
                                                    Dust to Dust  2 months back

                                                    Man, it's like they read my mind with this stuff. Just weeks ago, I'd planned out a character who was trying to embody _just this,_ a purely telekinetic, telepathic wizard/sorcerer who didn't use (or begrudgingly used) any elemental magic; just force and psychic. I was even trying to get him to have a move that did -1d4 on saves, and they made that better than what I would bargain with a DM for! This is sooooo good! Go, Wizards of the Coast!!!

                                                    • Byron Pink
                                                      Byron Pink  2 months back

                                                      Maybe this is just me but I'd much rather they worked on fixing the mystic into a balanced stand-alone class rather than adding psionic subclasses for the others.

                                                      • Michael Johnson
                                                        Michael Johnson  2 months back

                                                        Psionic ENHANCEMENTS Official TSR CANON Athas Dark Sun 10th Level Psionically ENHANCED Spells. 2nd Edition Advanced Dungeons and DRAGONS
                                                        *Enter the DEFILER DRAGON!!*

                                                        • Adam Gillespie
                                                          Adam Gillespie  2 months back

                                                          Begone thought

                                                          • Dereck Heineman
                                                            Dereck Heineman  2 months back

                                                            Oi! When am i gonna get my mystic? Mystic needs updated.

                                                            • Green Hawk
                                                              Green Hawk  2 months back

                                                              Ive already converted some of these spells into artificer spells. Id Insinuation for example, i lowered the damage die, made it last 1 round, no concentration, small 5-10ft aoe.

                                                              As if its a concussive grenade of sorts.

                                                              I dig these new spells & subclasses a lot.

                                                              • Franco Possapp
                                                                Franco Possapp  2 months back

                                                                DUDE, MAKE A MANUAL FOCUS ON THE CAMERA, IT KEEPS REFOCUSING, JESUS CHRIST

                                                                • Iferut Oznola
                                                                  Iferut Oznola  2 months back

                                                                  Psionics should be outside magic for resistance purposes.

                                                                  • Reuben Fromow
                                                                    Reuben Fromow  2 months back

                                                                    It seems that if they ever made an actual class for the mystic, we already know what the subclasses would look like: Aberrant mind, Soul Knife, Psychic Warrior, etc.

                                                                    I just think that what they’re missing is a core class resource- or ability- for the class to run off.

                                                                    Off the top of my head, it feels like the mystic class should look quite similar to a spellcaster. They would have the ability to take certain spells at certain levels, similar to the Mystic Arcanum feature of the Warlock (Spells like Suggestion or Telekinesis). These spells would count as Psionics, however, and not magic.

                                                                    I think that they would have a more limited “spellcasting ability”- for want of a better word- to make way for these more unique subclass abilities, like the power to Conjure Soul Knives, or other such things.

                                                                    Idk, I don’t think it’s an impossible idea to implement, it’s just about getting the right feel. I don’t think that wrapping psionics into subclasses are the right way to go though- they should feel like their own “thing”

                                                                    • Justin Jacobs
                                                                      Justin Jacobs  2 months back

                                                                      Maybe a blend of the Monk's ki and abilities with the casting of Sorcerers?

                                                                      Not gonna lie, I wanna play a Soulknife Whispers Bard Changeling for a full on House Dimir styled character. Hop from identity to identity as they bend a city to their machinations... Then, one day it's king passes away mysteriously and the agent is already in a place to have a go at the crown. . .

                                                                  • G. P.
                                                                    G. P.  2 months back

                                                                    Tbh, I prefer my magic and psyonics like oil and water...
                                                                    Psyonics as "abilities" rather than "spells", similarly in having Psypoints, rather than slots.
                                                                    I'd rather that they revert to revising the Mystic. But, that's me 🙂

                                                                    • Jacob Freeman
                                                                      Jacob Freeman  1 months back

                                                                      @Lucitaur only because it is so new to the majority of creatures. Certainly ilithids treat it as a science. And as they have plumbed its depths for eons this is as it should be. Science is just the discipline of studying the world. But that doesn't make this thing new to the usual humanoid races any less mysterious. Even the usual magic practices are still mysterious. The true interworkings of the Weave are beyond mortal ken.

                                                                    • Lucitaur
                                                                      Lucitaur  1 months back

                                                                      @Jacob Freeman Yes, but in tier that natural world is to a science, while psionics are way more mystery around them.

                                                                    • Jacob Freeman
                                                                      Jacob Freeman  1 months back

                                                                      @Lucitaur magic is still mysterious. Wizards just study the mystery.

                                                                    • Lucitaur
                                                                      Lucitaur  1 months back

                                                                      @Jacob Freeman It would be cooler if magic and psionics are their own things, though.
                                                                      Like that psionics have nothing to do with the weave, but are simply abilities of the mind just like jumping, running, climbing, and such are abilities of the body (so a psion could cast his psionics in an anti-magic field just fine, while a mage would just sit there).
                                                                      Also, it would actually return some 'magic' into D&D since, as you said, current magic is basically fantasy science of D&D, meaning that while it's cool, it's still a bit too present to be anything mysterious, while psionics would be that mysterious thing that can be exactly measured or replicated (though I guess a Wizard could mimic what a Psion is doing similar to a scientist who would build a flamethrower in order to mimic a Wizard casting Burning Hands), but either you simply get it or you don't.

                                                                    • Jacob Freeman
                                                                      Jacob Freeman  2 months back

                                                                      Depends on how you think about it. Wizards are kind of the scientists of D&D. So they are using wizard techniques to achieve psionic abilities. Where as psionics use a different approach.

                                                                  • Kevin M Packard
                                                                    Kevin M Packard  2 months back

                                                                    I honestly think psionics as a wizarding tradition is a terrible concept. Crawford seems to overrely on subclasses for design space and I wish he'd stop. It might have made sense if they'd pared down the list of classes for 5e but they didn't. If Paladin is a class, Psion should be too.

                                                                    • BeastBreadstick
                                                                      BeastBreadstick  2 months back

                                                                      I'm not sure about the idea of having the wizard ability to use spells without components, Thought Form, since that takes away a lot of the fun for sorcerer players who had to choose subtle spell and had to exhaust sorcery points, which are limited if not multiclassing, to effectively use in multiple scenarios (both narrative and combat) in one day. Not only that, but psionics seems to be more innate than a study. It made sense for the Aberrant Mind Sorcerer, Psychic Warrior, and SoulKnife because they're not studying the arts of psionics but more, like, manifesting their abilities. Honestly, wizards in 5e seem to be favored more than other classes in my opinion (says the sorcerer player). Though, I think an ability that completely transforms one's body and manipulates the way one casts spells, which is essentially the only unique thing of a sorcerer (mechanically), should be given to the sorcerer instead, to no one, or to the barbarian with less spells because it also kinda resembles a "rage" affect with resistance benefits.

                                                                      • FelineElaj
                                                                        FelineElaj  2 months back

                                                                        Please, just make the Mystic official. Please.

                                                                        • Michael Johnson
                                                                          Michael Johnson  2 months back

                                                                          See Athas Dark Sun TSR ERA CANON

                                                                          • No Justice Network
                                                                            No Justice Network  2 months back

                                                                            But Psionic Monks tho 😭 I want a punchy mindbender

                                                                            • Vega North
                                                                              Vega North  1 months back

                                                                              Githzeraaaiiiiii 🎶

                                                                            • V2Blast
                                                                              V2Blast  2 months back

                                                                              I suspect a psionic monk might be coming eventually.

                                                                          • earthboundagain
                                                                            earthboundagain  2 months back

                                                                            Not that it's a surprise but again psionics are underwhelming. Imho you always treat psionics like it is a bad penny. Psionics has such potential but is never given the proper treatment it deserves.

                                                                            • defenseive kobra
                                                                              defenseive kobra  2 months back

                                                                              So similar to psicrystals but not sentient?

                                                                              • Jeffrey M
                                                                                Jeffrey M  2 months back

                                                                                "Spice.", Spice? "Spice."

                                                                                Dune Expansion coming to the Multiverse nearest your realm~

                                                                                • Loco Tomo
                                                                                  Loco Tomo  2 months back

                                                                                  Please stop running around Dark Sun in circles. Just do it! :D

                                                                                • Scott Doering
                                                                                  Scott Doering  2 months back

                                                                                  So now I could make Lo-Pan. lol

                                                                                  • Millstone1985
                                                                                    Millstone1985  2 months back

                                                                                    Please make a new class, the psion, with its own list of psionic disciplines. Then you can make a wizard subclass that has access to some of these disciplines.

                                                                                    • Anthony Wormington
                                                                                      Anthony Wormington  2 months back

                                                                                      I can't wait to play this Psionic Arcane Tradition and wear psionic focus in my forehead like the D&D 2e and 3e Kiira gems which was a spellbook and a focus. Oh and an awesome job like always Todd. :)