The One Deadly Problem With Avengers: Endgame's Ending

  • Published: 12 June 2019
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    Time travel is complicated. Doctor Strange teased at the potential of these issues in his solo movie, but the big ol’ can of time-traveling worms was just opened up in a huge way thanks to Endgame. While the linear focus was on the journey of our Avengers and ultimately defeating Thanos, we cannot help but think about the splintered timeline that was created in Marvel universe.

    Along with Loki’s new timeline and Steve Rogers hopping aboard his own personal timeline, there’s one more we cannot stop thinking about -- the 2014 timeline that Thanos, Nebula, and Gamora all abandoned to travel to 2023.

    Their actions inadvertently created a whole new timeline with some pretty dire consequences for the whole universe. Let’s dive in and see exactly how. You would think a timeline without Thanos existing would be a safer place -- well maybe for Earth initially, but for the rest of the universe -- not so much. In Avengers Endgame, when the 2014 version of Thanos travels through time and doesn’t return, he creates an alternate timeline where himself, Gamora, and Nebula no longer exist. This splintered timeline is full of possibilities, but also has some dire consequences including a threat that even the Avengers wouldn’t be able to stop. In this period, which we’ll refer to as Earth-2014 just for the heck of it, the whole universe would be destroyed all thanks to Ego. Exactly how would this happen? Let's break things down and give a little shoutout to Reddit user LjGor for creating the theory.

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  • Carlos M
    Carlos M  2 days back

    They all turned to dust for 5 years none of this could of happened

    • D.E. Cipher
      D.E. Cipher  3 days back

      Wait - so do the Guardians of the Galaxy still exist, or do they never come about?

      Make up your damn minds!

      • Jake And
        Jake And  2 weeks back

        Clicked before I noticed it was Screen Rant... Another garbage video as usual.

        • Mikey F
          Mikey F  2 weeks back

          Morty: what about the reality we left behind?

          Rick: The answer is don’t think about it.

          • RaspWillow
            RaspWillow  3 weeks back

            "What about the timeline where Hitler cures cancer? The answer is: don't think about it."

            • Justin Key
              Justin Key  3 weeks back

              I know I’m late, so it doesn’t matter. But no. Quill doesn’t refuse Ego because of gamora, he does because Ego admits to killing Quill’s Mom. He would’ve reacted that way no matter what.

              • Larry Roberts
                Larry Roberts  3 weeks back

                Changing the past doesn’t change the future. Just creates an alternate dimension. Also, I believe it was stated at some point that thanos wasn’t actually wiped from his own timeline, just eliminated him being in the 2023 time.

                • Blake Etter
                  Blake Etter  3 weeks back

                  To be fair ego didn’t cover every single planet in the universe and there are forces like the magicians who would stop them. The only reason they didn’t was cuz it wasn’t a threat anyways. Plus there are whole colony ships in space

                  • James Williams
                    James Williams  3 weeks back

                    Should be labeled as fanfic

                    • Martin Thibodeaux
                      Martin Thibodeaux  3 weeks back

                      If Ant Man never goes back to his OG time, then none of the events of Endgame even happen in the same universe as Infinity War, right?

                      • Ben
                        Ben  4 weeks back

                        There are only two timelines - the past without Thanos + crew, and the "original" timeline. All the separate jumps don't make new timelines each time. The way it works is: if two timelines cannot logically possibly be compatible, then they stay separate (past without Thanos + crew cannot lead to the future as we saw it). However, all the pasts in each different jump could fit together, so they do. Also you answer your own question: Captain Marvel shows up and kills Ego, gg. Past Quill never meets Gamora though, sad times

                        • Nathan Melton
                          Nathan Melton  4 weeks back

                          But when Ironman snapped, he returned everyone back to life and sent all enemy’s back to were they came from....... So everything went back to pre-2014..... maybe! Lol

                          • apfelninja
                            apfelninja  4 weeks back

                            Silver surfer black is supposed to be cannon in the mcu, and in it, ego's around. Maybe this is marvel comics addressing what happens in the alternate universe

                            • La Division De Ariza
                              La Division De Ariza  4 weeks back

                              Dr Strange could have predicted with the time stone.

                              • avery daniel
                                avery daniel  4 weeks back

                                Those branch timeliness do not effect the present. That was already stated in the movie. They become alternate realitys. Therfore nothing to do with the current mcu timeline

                              • Timothy Galvin
                                Timothy Galvin  4 weeks back

                                Lots of leaps in logic here

                                • John Wright
                                  John Wright  4 weeks back

                                  As it was said by the ancient one, removing an infinity stone from the timeline creates alternate timelines, not the act of time travel itself. Thanos traveling through time doesn't change anything.

                                  • Jeremy Bird
                                    Jeremy Bird  4 weeks back

                                    What??? Thor left with the guardians at the end

                                    • Brian Robinson
                                      Brian Robinson  1 months back

                                      Because of Thanos leaving the timeline, Loki escaping, cap living a full life and Tony engaging his father ignites different timelines. Would the Marvel What If series be the actual results in different timelines due those key events in Endgame?

                                      • BruklinBridge
                                        BruklinBridge  1 months back

                                        This one was painful. Couldn't even finish it. Please stop.

                                        • Phillip Castro
                                          Phillip Castro  1 months back

                                          It's a movie.

                                          • Iyammarrok 'Rok'
                                            Iyammarrok 'Rok'  1 months back

                                            Quill would probably have still woken up when Ego said he put that cancer in his mother.

                                            • Lhagva Suren
                                              Lhagva Suren  1 months back

                                              Ego is already dead in original universe. So no fear!

                                              • stephenstiles2
                                                stephenstiles2  1 months back

                                                I have posted this before. I think Stark didn't actually destroy Thanos and company. He sent them back in time with no memory of the End Game. Otherwise, there are definitely alternate timelines not to mention paradoxes.

                                                • Josh Chiavetta
                                                  Josh Chiavetta  1 months back

                                                  "She would literally have to do battle with every planet in the galaxy!"
                                                  *Galactus* I can help with that

                                                  • Kevin Mahon
                                                    Kevin Mahon  1 months back

                                                    ego needed quinn to complete his plan, changing that timeline only lets ego free if it ends with him getting quinn

                                                    • Utkaarsh Shivhare
                                                      Utkaarsh Shivhare  1 months back

                                                      Ego I've come to bargain

                                                      • soulless one
                                                        soulless one  1 months back

                                                        If only ego would have thought about taking the Power Stone himself he would not have needed quill at all and he wouldn't have wasted all the years looking for his off spring am I right

                                                        • The One Below All
                                                          The One Below All  1 months back

                                                          Or Tony wished them back to their timeline with memories erased when he snapped!? Nobody knows what exactly Tony snap/wish was!

                                                          • Bjorn Arnesen
                                                            Bjorn Arnesen  2 months back

                                                            Oh, I think Galactus knows about Ego's little plan. "You dare destroy my food source?"

                                                            • quincyking010
                                                              quincyking010  2 months back

                                                              Quil woke up not because of gamora but because of ego saying he killed his mom

                                                              • Anthony Henselin
                                                                Anthony Henselin  2 months back

                                                                The problem with this video is that you assume that starck killed thanos with the snap. He sent them back to the moment after they had arrived and in their original time line with no way to get back.

                                                                • fitzdraco
                                                                  fitzdraco  2 months back

                                                                  What about the timeline where Hitler cured cancer. Don't think about it.

                                                                  • Luís Piteira
                                                                    Luís Piteira  2 months back

                                                                    Yeah, but they stated the timelines keep the same. You can go back but the same things happen. Quill remembers Gamorra dying. Killing baby Thanos wouldn't stop the snap, etc.

                                                                    Yeah, Back to the Future rules do not apply here.

                                                                    • Sophia Wilson
                                                                      Sophia Wilson  2 months back

                                                                      ps Captain America return all the Stones in proper time and space.

                                                                      • Originals Only
                                                                        Originals Only  2 months back

                                                                        that's why time travel wasn't an option in comics

                                                                        • Badmoney883
                                                                          Badmoney883  2 months back

                                                                          Doesnt cap coming back at the end of Endgame prove nothing bad happens to earth?

                                                                          • Kiefer Gallagher
                                                                            Kiefer Gallagher  2 months back

                                                                            Ego could only complete his task because of Peter 🧐

                                                                            • Jonathan James
                                                                              Jonathan James  2 months back

                                                                              fan service and tony stark broke the timeline, gonna need a move to fix that. shoulda just wiped thanos mind and hard drives and returned them to their time. since thanos now dies twice and could never have snapped the first time or destroyed the stones. so i guess multiverse of madness has a great plot, fix tonys fk up that created at least 5 alternate timelines and somehow didnt blow up all of them.

                                                                              • Jonathan James
                                                                                Jonathan James  2 months back

                                                                                how did loki die on the ship if he was never captured? much less the tesseract return to asgard to be stolen by him later? does that mean the dark world and ragnarok never happened, aether never found, and dark elves never defeated? if so then how did thanos or anyone get the aether? fan service is what broke the timeline, thanks tony.

                                                                                • Jonathan Dibartolo
                                                                                  Jonathan Dibartolo  2 months back

                                                                                  Mfw you realize the avengers inadvertently kill countless more people than thanos ever did or will

                                                                                  • TopShonuff
                                                                                    TopShonuff  2 months back

                                                                                    It’s a domino effect. Once Odin died, that allowed Thanos to go for the Stones. Since no Odin and Thano, means anybody can go for the Stones. Can’t wait when MCU brings in the Fantastic 4 and Silver Surfer and some future X-Men or Mutants into the Universe. Will see Spider-Man in 10yrs when Sony reboots it again.

                                                                                    • Forsaken Ace
                                                                                      Forsaken Ace  2 months back

                                                                                      I think without thanos, gamora, and the GOTG crew meeting up, I think ego wouldn’t be able to find Peter thus couldn’t take over the universe

                                                                                      • Vernon Crayton
                                                                                        Vernon Crayton  2 months back

                                                                                        This would all be true...except for the fact that no one cares about a fractured timeline becuz they are ultimately great for content

                                                                                        • Sig Level One
                                                                                          Sig Level One  2 months back

                                                                                          1. Before Ego is destroyed, Starlord is virtually immortal, so a blow to the head from War Machine or anything Korath can do won't kill him.
                                                                                          2. This begs for a spin off story of Captain Marvel and Silver Surfer battling Ego and ultimately getting Galactus to eat him before he takes over everything. lol

                                                                                          • Xxxleo Uzi
                                                                                            Xxxleo Uzi  2 months back

                                                                                            If the guardians of the galaxy didn’t exists peter quill never holds the stone meaning ego never hears about it which means he never sees his plan through

                                                                                            • Ivan Bacak
                                                                                              Ivan Bacak  2 months back

                                                                                              Thanos told Stark "You aren't the only one burdened with knowledge" in Infinity War meaning he knew about the future. I am guessing that when Stark snapped his fingers he actually sent Thanos back to his original time.

                                                                                              • Arasan 94
                                                                                                Arasan 94  2 months back

                                                                                                another avengers movie covering these issues perhaps?