How To Write Dialogue: Tyrion vs Janos Slynt

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  • apocalyps6
    apocalyps6  3 weeks back

    send the link to this video to D&D?

    • joshua Pannell
      joshua Pannell  2 months back

      Yoshihiro Togashi can do no wrong.

      • alvi syahri
        alvi syahri  2 months back

        My grammar nazi sense is tingling

        • mac
          mac  2 months back

          is this CGP Grey??

          • im replying to this comment

            Would be scared to even look at the dude if he talks in a certain way

            • Kitty Maehem
              Kitty Maehem  2 months back

              I hope D&D are watching *SAVAGE BOOKS* very closely, and ask, nay, *beg* for your assistance in whichever project they choose to attempt next!
              The writing in GOT sure did suffer once GRRM stepped away… and no one can reasonably say that anything after S4 was remotely watchable! I’ll happily wait for GRRM’s books!

              • 54markl
                54markl  2 months back

                Benioff and Weiss turned Tyrion into a fucking nitwit moron, now nobody gives a shit about him anymore. I spent eight years waiting for him to Rearrange Chairs and tell Half of a stupid Brothel Joke? Grrr! 🤬

                • Expirus
                  Expirus  2 months back

                  You know what this reminds me of, Normal Human Conversation lol

                  • Sam Mendoza
                    Sam Mendoza  3 months back

                    One other aspect I love is how Janos continually answers Tyrion directly and never sees the subtlety of the conversation. When Tyrion brings up Joffery and his age, Janos seems to notice Tyrion is measuring his loyalty. Janos tries to convince Tyrion that he is loyal no matter what, believing that to be a good thing in Tyrion's eyes when the complete opposite is true.

                    When he mentions that the pendant is paltry he's not only mentioning that the pendant (and by subtext his position) is not worth the actions that he performed, it's not even worth what it is supposed to be. He killed a leader of a great house and was given a second rate reward, even the position did not give him what he desired.

                    When Tyrion asks if he stabbed him in the back himself, Janos defends that it was he who did it. He did not give the order (and thus the credit) to another. Again, misunderstanding that by this involvement he is condemned in Tyrion's eyes. Tyrion lays traps directly in front of Janos and he trips every one

                    • Jonathan Carreño
                      Jonathan Carreño  3 months back

                      How about Tarantino's dialogues?

                      • Waleed Mcclintock
                        Waleed Mcclintock  3 months back

                        Uh...dude...let the scene play first,then analyze it.

                        • Cunnysmythe
                          Cunnysmythe  3 months back

                          Didn't realise the layers in the dialogue before this video. Interesting stuff.

                          • rugged english
                            rugged english  3 months back

                            Cool. I like these vids. I think you’ve got a new subscriber.

                            Yes dialogue is most fun in movies!! Especially war movies.
                            Fury. The scene where the simple, temporary tranquility of four adults sitting about is instantly ruined through entrance of other crew men.
                            Is this a conversation that interests you? Struggle for power. Dynamic. Flow. Underlying tension.

                            Or how about a Mallik monologue?
                            Maybe a Fincher scene? Social network? Girl with dragon tattoo? Martins interrogations of Blomkvist in the dungeon?
                            Or fight club. Tyler, Marla n narrator before big reveal.
                            Thanks. Hope maybe my interests are intriguing to your channel.
                            Stay gold

                            • James John
                              James John  3 months back

                              Great, now i feel like all of the dialog I’ve written is crap.

                              • BoyKagome
                                BoyKagome  4 months back

                                "I'm not questioning your honor, I'm denying it's existence entirely."

                                Mwuhaha, that's my boy.

                                • Nathan Jackson
                                  Nathan Jackson  4 months back

                                  Don't call Janos Slynt a slobbering invertebrate; no centipede would ever speak to you again.

                                  • Friendly Neighborhood Writer Man

                                    I actually tried something like that once, I wrote a story that had the main character not say a thing. He wasn't mute but, was so distraught the whole time to talk. It was described that he'd had conversations but, he never officially spoke a line of dialogue. It was also all in second person. There was no I, it was like a story being told back to you.

                                    • William Chamberlain
                                      William Chamberlain  4 months back

                                      "I liked it," he said, "but you could put a touch more characterisation into your reading."

                                      • Harold White
                                        Harold White  4 months back

                                        Look, I love your analysis. My only complaint is that the material you're analyzing requires more time than 10 minutes. I would really appreciate a podcast length analysis on this sort of material.

                                        • Tom Taylor
                                          Tom Taylor  4 months back

                                          I'm binge watching all of your amazing content. You know when you listen to Carl Sagan or Stephen Hawking and you feel like your mind has been blown but you forget it ten minutes later and it feels like a dream? You are my cosmos.

                                          • Trevor E.
                                            Trevor E.  4 months back

                                            I like how the book wrote this scene much better than how the show spun it. The show made it seem like Tyrin only exiled Janos because he betrayed the last hand he didn’t trust him. In the books, it was because he supported the king’s foolishness which caused an entire war that spread across Westeros. Much less selfish and even more justified. It shows Tyrion was concerned more with the fate of the Seven Kingdomst than the petty politics and backstabbings in King’s Landing.

                                            • tansteel
                                              tansteel  4 months back

                                              Season 1-5: exploring the suffering of man through an overt war and a covert war(one within himself)
                                              Season 5-8: Postmodern Nihilism , nothing matters, you're stupid thus we will interpret the story for you after each episode, we'll only keep the characters who's actors we like in real life alive everyone else is as good as dead.

                                              • Lux Borealis
                                                Lux Borealis  4 months back

                                                Nihilism isn’t postmodern, nihilism is romantic era philosophy. Derrida’s "nihilism" has very little to do with the actual historical philosophical concept.

                                            • Khael Storm
                                              Khael Storm  4 months back

                                              Fine YouTube, I’ll watch this video.

                                              • Alex the Great
                                                Alex the Great  4 months back

                                                Dialogue should further the plot? I could point at three amazing scenes from game of thrones that don't do that.

                                                Robert tells of his first kill while drinking himself to shit.
                                                Robert and Cersei have a conversation while drinking themselves to shit.
                                                Tyrion refuses to bow at Joffrey who is going to drink himself to shit.

                                                Good dialogue needs WINE!!!

                                                • MG Rides
                                                  MG Rides  3 weeks back

                                                  Rewatch the video. It says that if dialogue doesn't further the plot, it should establish the characters or the world. In all three of your scenes the dialogue add to the character and the world.

                                              • Hyndergogen9
                                                Hyndergogen9  4 months back

                                                It's interesting , you have a very similar illustration style to TIFO football and their stat breakdown videos. Was that a conscious influence or coincidence?

                                                • The man with the frying pan

                                                  Okay so to write good dialogue you have to be a black square bishop. Got it, teachers, hold on to your A-s

                                                  • Francesco Previte
                                                    Francesco Previte  4 months back

                                                    Your videos are good but you should improve sound

                                                    • Tatiana Ferreira
                                                      Tatiana Ferreira  4 months back

                                                      D&D Should've watched this tutorial before writing GOT.

                                                      • Walder Frey of the Twins.

                                                        The exception to the rule would be the conversation about mayonnaise and feet massage in Pulp Fiction?

                                                        • Dr Fabulous
                                                          Dr Fabulous  4 months back

                                                          Seasons 1-5: political backstabbing, fascinating dialogue, complex characters and story arcs
                                                          Season 6: the Ramsay Bolton and Jon Snow Show (with a little of the above)
                                                          Seasons 7-8: Daenerys burning things, Cercei being incompetent at being ruthless, Jon only having 1 line of Dialogue, Arya is invincible MVP, Cock Jokes.

                                                          • RanMouri82
                                                            RanMouri82  4 months back

                                                            S8 Arya's also been called an "anime protagonist".

                                                        • Anime Is dope
                                                          Anime Is dope  4 months back

                                                          I think tywin lannistor was the best written character it was good that he died before he was ruined

                                                          • Nicholas Avalos
                                                            Nicholas Avalos  4 months back

                                                            I feel that G.R.R.M is a decent writer when it comes to his descriptions, but I feel he shows a lot rather than tells. However in his dialogue I think he may be unmatched. He has made so many awesome quotes and I find that he rarely ever has a cliche in his writing especially when it comes to his dialogue.

                                                            • chasm671
                                                              chasm671  4 months back

                                                              "George RR Martin has demonstrated a concept where the characters closely identify with their sigil"


                                                              Except for the Boltons, who chose a sigil that says "don't fuck with us and you *probably* won't end up like this guy."

                                                              • Kai Green
                                                                Kai Green  4 months back

                                                                1) it's Jay-nous
                                                                2) it's Gee-or
                                                                3) I can't take writing advice from people who can't even read names properly.

                                                                • Michael Smith
                                                                  Michael Smith  4 months back

                                                                  I think it's impossible to be named "Kai" and not see yourself as a smug, pretentious d bag..

                                                                • chasm671
                                                                  chasm671  4 months back

                                                                  4) Names cannot be "read properly" until you have heard them spoken by a reliable source.
                                                                  5) You're a pseudo-intellectual nobody and if you're going to invent moronic reasons to disregard advice in favour of misguided attempts to demonstrate your sense of superiority, then you're probably going to fail even at making popular Youtube content, let alone being a successful writer.
                                                                  6) Fuck off, you smug, sorry sack of shit.

                                                              • Maria Novacov
                                                                Maria Novacov  4 months back

                                                                How did you painted all of that with a black sharpie wOoew

                                                                • Hayden Arlington
                                                                  Hayden Arlington  4 months back

                                                                  I just started reading A Clash of Kings and read that chapter a couple of days ago. This made me really understand the dialogue more.

                                                                  • sharp52092
                                                                    sharp52092  4 months back

                                                                    Some of my lines are good, but I feel the majority of my dialogue is terrible.

                                                                    • mxt mxt
                                                                      mxt mxt  4 months back

                                                                      Dialogue is important but far from being the most important.

                                                                      • NuEnque
                                                                        NuEnque  4 months back

                                                                        I disagree. Characters can talk just to talk. Example... in HBO’s The Wire, there is a scene where one of the gangsters is complaining to the other about the quality of the Chinese food they’re eating. This has nothing to do with the conflict at hand, it’s just a random conversation between two people. This works to show them as regular everyday joes

                                                                        • Tobo McLukewarm
                                                                          Tobo McLukewarm  4 months back

                                                                          That's very clearly world building and grounding the characters in a reality that resembles our own more. A bad example of characters talking to talk is Tyrion and Varys in episode 1 of season 8. Not very subtle and kind of stupid. Didn't progress the plot nor their character.

                                                                          An insulting example of dialouge is the conversions between Sansa and Dany. Way too blatant and not subtle at all. It turns the characters into mere vessels to communicate themes and motivations to the audience rather than allowing them to pick up on it.
                                                                          Another example of insulting dialogue is between Jaime and Tyrion in episode 5 of season 8 when Jaime says he never cared for civilians of Kings Landing 'innocent or otherwise'. Completely betrays his character and undoes his entire arc.

                                                                        • A.C. Dragonlover
                                                                          A.C. Dragonlover  4 months back

                                                                          That could be considered an example of world building, actually. Not that the Chinese place is bad, but the fact that they are indeed just regular people with regular people problems. The same line wouldn't work for a crime lord who we already know the backstory to. It'd just tell us that he ate bad chinese food. It's world building because it shows the gangsters aren't some hand picked, groomed exactly how they're supposed to be people. The line works because the person saying it is (I assume) someone we know virtually nothing about and whose individual status and importance doesn't drive the plot more than any other gangster's, that anyone else could do his job.

                                                                      • Wukiee
                                                                        Wukiee  4 months back

                                                                        5:55 Season 8 only had white tiles

                                                                      • Thom G
                                                                        Thom G  5 months back

                                                                        I thought the chessboard analogy was quite a leap of logic...

                                                                        • Quinn Swain-Nisbet
                                                                          Quinn Swain-Nisbet  5 months back

                                                                          SavageBooks you should really get into Babylon 5 if you think the writing of GoT was amazing, Babylon 5 is beyond amazing and unlike GoT it did not fall to pieces since it's creator was not reliant on books and also because the creator knew how the story was always going to end.

                                                                          • Craw1011
                                                                            Craw1011  5 months back

                                                                            I love your videos on dialogue!

                                                                            • silvercomic
                                                                              silvercomic  5 months back

                                                                              Later on, Varys appears to discuss his riddle about where power lies. This dialog has already been an investigation into that theme. The Goldcloaks arrest Slynt on Tyrions orders, but if they had believed that the true power was with Slynt, they could just have easily arrested Tyrion on Slynts orders.

                                                                              • Marlile
                                                                                Marlile  4 months back

                                                                                and turn on the only Lannister in the room? That would've been a pretty moronic move on Slynt's part. The Wall is a mercy by that point.

                                                                            • Leonardo Datore
                                                                              Leonardo Datore  5 months back

                                                                              I'm not an expert on dialogue, but I've found that Oscar Wilde has written some of the best dialogue I've ever read. Especially in The Picture of Dorian Grey.

                                                                              • Andrew Creates
                                                                                Andrew Creates  5 months back

                                                                                Wow. This really is helpful. Please do more of these!

                                                                                • Joseph Vice
                                                                                  Joseph Vice  5 months back

                                                                                  5:54 super confusing visually.

                                                                                  • Dane Burton
                                                                                    Dane Burton  5 months back

                                                                                    "Advance the plot through dialogue" seems to be the opposite of "show, don't tell"

                                                                                    • Marlile
                                                                                      Marlile  4 months back

                                                                                      "Show, don't tell" applies to dialogue too. But it's the difference between telling the reader with dialogue lacking all subtext, "I am upset at you because of what you did to me, so I will pursue my revenge." or, with subtext added, you're showing the reader that same information while not outright stating it with something like, "You can go fuck yourself - if you'd've brought this up a week earlier, maybe, but now? Fuck yourself bloody - and don't think I'll forget."


                                                                                      It's all about the actual wording of the dialogue, that's where the characterization comes in.

                                                                                    • jpesmar
                                                                                      jpesmar  5 months back

                                                                                      Books and scripts behave differently in this regard.