Why Game Of Thrones Fell Apart At The End

  • Published: 24 May 2019
  • It's almost impossible to end a hit show in a way that makes everyone happy. But thanks to rushed execution, frustrating character choices, and other inconsistencies, a number of diehard Game of Thrones fans are pretty annoyed with how everything shook out. Here's a spoiler-filled examination of what we think went wrong with the final season of Game of Thrones.

    For the first five seasons, showrunners David Benioff and D.B. Weiss were able to mostly follow Martin's books as a direct template, and many of the show's most beloved and infamous moments, including the execution of Ned Stark, and the Red and Purple Weddings, were directly out of the source material. Benioff and Weiss did make some welcome adjustments; in the fifth book, Tyrion wanders around for what feels like years before meeting Daenerys, whereas in the show, they team up pretty quickly, but for the most part, they stuck to the literal script in front of them.

    However, once the show's fifth season ended, so did the source material; the next book in Martin's series, The Winds of Winter, is still unfinished. And once Benioff and Weiss ran out of source material, that's around the same time many fans started complaining about being unsatisfied with the handling of the show's overall story and writing, even though Martin himself guided them through the final acts of the series. Obviously Benioff and Weiss aren't without talent, since they built the show fans grew to love. But Martin is naturally better at manipulating his own story, and problems began to arise when the showrunners were left to their own devices.

    It's understandable that, as Game of Thrones went on and became a bigger and bigger hit, HBO would want it to continue as long as possible. But in 2015, Benioff and Weiss had a public dispute with the network over how long it would run, expressing a desire to close out the show after just seven seasons. Even though Martin himself said the show should be at least 13 seasons, the showrunners and HBO eventually forged a deal for an eight-season run that would abbreviate seasons seven and eight; the former would last for seven episodes, while season eight would only consist of six.

    Many fans critical of the show have come to proclaim that cramming years' worth of buildup and anticipation into a shorter set of episodes created a new set of problems, making it all the more baffling that the showrunners insisted on these short seasons. Without room to let the story breathe, the final batch of episodes felt really rushed. As a result, they stand in stark contrast to the show's earlier seasons that focused on epic journeys, character development, and long throughlines. Keep watching the video to see why Game of Thrones fell apart at the end!

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    No more source material | 0:19
    Abbreviated seasons | 1:18
    Sloppy execution | 2:55
    Poor character development | 4:04
    Buildup without payoff | 5:29
    Forgetting prophecies | 6:47
    Forgoing huge stories | 8:02
    Vanished characters | 9:08
    And the king is… | 10:07
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  • Looper
    Looper   6 months back

    If you could pin GoT season 8's problems on one reason, what would that reason be?

    • Patriot
      Patriot  2 months back


    • Patriot
      Patriot  2 months back

      Garbage writing for a buck!

    • Krist S.
      Krist S.  2 months back

      D&D can't fucking write.

    • Kristal Kristal
      Kristal Kristal  3 months back

      @What ? Hey man, I liked Dorne.

    • Kristal Kristal
      Kristal Kristal  3 months back

      @What ? It felt rushed to the point where it was like being force fed one ridiculous "twist" after another, most of them being completely nonsensical. The characters were unrecognizable, and apparently their propensity for stupid and uncharacteristic decisions was the driver to a planned finish that rang both hollow and bizarre.

      It was like the characters and the world were replaced by dopplegangers in some sort of bizarro world simulacrum where everything that happened rung false. The dialogue was terrible, too. So no, more of the same conversation over and over would not have saved it.

      I was left stunned, as were the majority of people, and then when I looked to see why, the answer seems obvious. They were in a rush. They literally burned it off in an actual inferno in a mad dash to get out of there, and in so doing they treated those who gave them these "more interesting opportunities" with contempt - namely the fans who paid them with the currency of attention for years, not to mention with their actual currency.

      Maybe they just couldn't perform to the same calibre without source material, but that leaves me all the more stunned that HBO didn't hand the show off to other writers. How many talented writers would give a limb to finish that story? A lot, I'll bet.

      So I would say the failure lies both with negligent and possibly incompetent writers, but equally with HBO brass. Whomever let this pass was clearly drinking the kool aid. I am guessing D&D must be kind of charismatic IRL for that to have happened. Strange, since staring off into space and saying "Dani kinda forgot about the Iron Fleet" is about as milquetoast and moronic as one could be under the circumstances.

      The fact that Benioff apparently thought that such an explanation would actually fly probably speaks deeply of the current internal culture of HBO.

      Coddled idiots and poor choices, to put it in less kind terms.

  • raq_staristry
    raq_staristry  14 hours back

    If y'all are looking for a satisfying ending that stays true to the character arcs and the storyline, please check out Macabre Storytelling here on youtube. Be sure to check out his Tyrion episode first! Instead of fixing the ending as a whole, he picks up where he feels each character arc went astray ( all sometime after season4) and tweaks it into perfection.He's currently on Episode 9 of his rewrites. You wont regret it!!

    • Sarah Conner
      Sarah Conner  17 hours back

      How's the writers get away with this in the first place?

      • Peter Van Rillaer
        Peter Van Rillaer  2 days back

        As a small Belgian published fantasy writer myself I have some remarks...
        1. What stupid leader sacrifices his whole cavalry in an useless charge on the army of the dead in the third episode? Cavalry is at his best in supporting infantry. And using your slingshots only once? Really??? They should kill their commander immediately for extreme incompetence...
        2. Everybody is constantly whining about the fact that danaerys must protect the innocent in Kingslanding but no one is smart enough to use the advantage of 'smuggling' hundreds or even thousands of soldiers, dressed as refugees, into the city. Ayra and Jamie did it and they got away with it. Even with their weapons. They could have opened the gates at night and take the city without the bloodshed.
        3. Why was it so important for Brann that John Snow knew his real past? It served no purpose, it killed their love for each other (incest) and only speed up the insanity and mistrust of Danaerys. As a writer I would suppose that our 'little sweet Brann', our big 'know it all' had a hidden agenda that lead him to his crowning. I wouldn't trust that little bastard anyway...

        • Youssef Houaoui
          Youssef Houaoui  3 days back

          Any good writer will tell you the villains are way more important than the heros in any good story GOT fkked up the night king and the show totally failed

          • Glen Wang
            Glen Wang  2 weeks back

            1:17 - Tywin's actual reaction to the entirety of Season 8.

            • SLJR23
              SLJR23  3 weeks back

              You can definitely tell things were rushed at the end and it’s a shame too because GOT was such a good show. It really annoys me that GRRM wanted 13 seasons to tell the story and the show writers wanted it to end soon. I mean the final season makes it difficult to rewatch the series again because you know the payoff isn’t good. I get you’re never going to please everyone, but there’s no need to ruin characters at the end. Dany had such a fast turn to madness. If they were going to have her go mad, at least let it be a slow turn. I just feel like it was such a waste of her character development because she spent so much time saying how she’d be different than her father, but then destroys an entire city a short time later. Jaime was a waste too. I didn’t understand why he went back for Cersei. It seemed like he felt she was a lost cause when he went to go fight for the living, but then changed his mind. Bran and Sansa came out of this looking bad too. Bran helped drive a wedge between Jon and Dany knowing what would happen. He also could’ve helped more with their fight against Cersei and that could’ve prevented some deaths. Sansa didn’t like Dany from the start and broke the vow she swore to Jon by telling Tyrion Jon’s secret. That was another thing that caused a lot more destruction. The writing was just so bad and they hurt so many characters. The Night King ended up being a waste of time. I mean it would’ve been better for a big fight with him and Jon given Jon was the one who encountered him the most. Arya should’ve been the one to kill Cersei too. They trained her to be an assassin, so she should’ve used those skills to sneak in to Kings Landing to get Cersei. I just hate that everything was rushed. I wish we could get a remake of the last season, but have it done right where they don’t butcher characters and it isn’t rushed.

              • Wide
                Wide  4 weeks back

                Disney offered the Executive Producer to help make a Star Wars movie so they rushed the ending, they did it cause they can make A LOT of money off of help make it

                • The Rock Reviews
                  The Rock Reviews  1 months back

                  Who cares, the fans need to get a fucking life.

                  • Piyush Rathi
                    Piyush Rathi  1 months back

                    The great end for understanding why the end like that u have 2 be imager cuz without that u can't able 2 understand y writer wrote like that might be the 1st one but true always like bitter gourd guys

                    • The.National.Blade
                      The.National.Blade  1 months back

                      Jaime should have killed his Cersei. It was prophesied and all the others came true. He was the younger brother that was foretold and not Tyrion. That would have been the right "twist" to the story arc and would have made sense to the audience.

                      Dany's story went right. It was the only way she could have ended that made sens to me.

                      They should have built up Bran a little more but iirc they stated in a previous season that he was going to be king. I can't remember the episode but he was talking with the old 3 Eyed Raven at the time.

                      • Patriot
                        Patriot  2 months back

                        The visuals were great BUT the storyline for season 8 total disappointment and garbage! Thank god the same writers d & d did not ever get near J RR Tolkiens Lord Of the Rings and make a mockery of it! Star Wars will be yet more garbage worse than the crap Disney has been putting out. D & D deserve Star Wars to bomb badly to end their careers !

                        • Boston Towny4life
                          Boston Towny4life  2 months back

                          I just don't understand why. Why did they stop caring? Why did they just want to end it so badly? HBO wanted it to go on much longer and so did George!! Why did D&D want to leave? It just doesn't make sense. You're at the healm of creating an entire FANTASY WORLD for people to immerse in and fall in love with and HBO is willing to give you all the artistic freedom you want, and you want to end it? Like what the fuck man? Was the millions of dollars just not enough?

                          • Boston Towny4life
                            Boston Towny4life  2 months back

                            I don't think it has as much to do with D&D's writing skills more so than the fact that they just rushed the last 2 seasons and it was impossible to coherently wrap up all those plot lines in the short amount of time they did it in. Because season 6 was not based on any book material yet it was still fantastic. Maybe not AS good as 1-4 but it was still epic in its own right.

                            • Whirlybird
                              Whirlybird  2 months back

                              If the dragon queen became queen, it would have to complicate all the other main character story lines and lengthen the series. Use your brains: killing everyone off kills all the story lines, so a quick ending! Think about everything that happened in seasons 6 & 7. They were pretty awesome. To get the true answer to what happened, it's obviously the writers and/or HBO. That is where the answer is. Rush the ending for TV's greatest series ever? End it in a hurry? Someone owns all the fans an explanation, and they are not getting it!

                              • Taleb Ali
                                Taleb Ali  2 months back

                                Such a flop season

                                • Buster Brown
                                  Buster Brown  2 months back

                                  The 2 knuckle head show runners(please) really screwed the pooch.

                                  • fpp
                                    fpp  2 months back

                                    I think they managed to destroy chacters in 2 ways: rushing some plots (like Dany's) and turning them into idiots, like Varys and Tyrion (who became the most naive person in Westeros and lost all strategical habilities).

                                    • Jeremy Dale
                                      Jeremy Dale  2 months back

                                      It's hard to narrow down what was wrong with season 8 into a single reason. But I guess if I had to: it would be to say the characters stopped being their characters. None of the shit they were doing made any sense. Jon Snow would have never stabbed Daenarys in the heart while kissing her.... Dany would have never just burned women and children alive like that for no reason...Jamie would not have crawled back to Cersei like a whimpering puppy after she tried to have him killed...Tyrion would not have been such a god awful adviser....Varys would not have acted so stupidly and conducted treason out in the open.... I could go on and on. it was all just so very stupid.

                                      • Victor James
                                        Victor James  2 months back

                                        So I'm no expert... but I think Sansa Stark successfully initiates a Brexit deal at the end!

                                        • Mudkip971
                                          Mudkip971  2 months back

                                          I'm pretty much fine with how everything went down except for the fact how poorly it ended for Jon especially after it was hinted by Melisandre that either he or Daenerys would rule.

                                          • Maxim Garuda
                                            Maxim Garuda  3 months back

                                            Game of thrones is overrated, let's accept it lol.

                                            • TheDers69
                                              TheDers69  3 months back

                                              I liked season 8 for what it was, I liked what there were doing. I don't think they ruined the show or the ending, it wasn't a flop to me. But it was rushed. Jeremy Jahns put it perfectly, this would of been perfect as a 10 season show to flush out more of what was going on in season 8. Have Danny rule for a while, watch her downfall as they intended it be. She definitely would of but heads with Sansa, queen in the north. Sansa definitely wouldn't of bent the knee. I remember saying in the beginning of the finale, there is enough here for a whole other season at least, maybe 2 lol I enjoyed it for what it was and didn't flop for me, there was just some wasted potential there which is alittle saddening. Mostly everything made sense to me, even Danny going all genocidle and John snow killing her. It was just on the rushed side and there could of been alot more epic story to tell. Danny is perfectly described by, you either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villian. They just rushed the whole becoming the villian part and would of been perfect for future episodes/seasons.

                                              • GREENEYELOVE
                                                GREENEYELOVE  3 months back

                                                What went wrong? Everything!

                                                • Star Dog
                                                  Star Dog  3 months back

                                                  There's always The Sopranos and Breaking Bad for a good ending

                                                  • Leslie Tillman
                                                    Leslie Tillman  3 months back

                                                    Feels like season 8 was rushed. Should have been > 20 episode. Maybe even more seasons.

                                                    • MrRugbyloosehead
                                                      MrRugbyloosehead  3 months back

                                                      It should have been two full seasons, and the fact they let something as trivial as a argument get in the way,shows how small minded the two show runners are!! So because of that the show suffered, as well as the fans and the actors and everyone who put an ounce of sweat into all the hard work that went into the production!.But there's nothing to be done about it now, so we need to all move on R.I.P. GAME OF THRONES.

                                                      • Dz Èlite
                                                        Dz Èlite  3 months back

                                                        they have a made a succesfull show with the worst ending ever! they have got a shit tones of money fot it!
                                                        and im left with the horrible feeling that im still dealing with !

                                                        • obsessive fangirl
                                                          obsessive fangirl  3 months back

                                                          Thank you so much for acknowledging the fuckery they did to Jaime. He was my favourite and those bastards ruined him cuz of their incest kink. Shame.

                                                          • Erik The Viking
                                                            Erik The Viking  3 months back

                                                            I thought the end could have been redeemed with John becoming King, even Tirian wanted him to be, Bran was no where on his list of possible Kings but for some reason they make him King? Like what the fuck man, what a waste of build up

                                                            • Hans Gruber
                                                              Hans Gruber  3 months back

                                                              They could literally have added a 30 second scene near the end where Bran tells Tyrion that everyone had been wrong about the White Walkers, and that their goal had really been to stop Dany all along. Flash back to scenes where they could have killed Bran or Jon or Sam but just walked right by. Show the images of the spiral pattern and the Targ banner. It would have made pretty much all of these problems go away. Since Arya screwed up the Night King's plan, Jon had to survive to kill her. The end.
                                                              Instead, we got a this.

                                                              • Yakob Rashoyan
                                                                Yakob Rashoyan  3 months back

                                                                Worst season ever. I wish they redo the entire season!!!

                                                                • Darren Timmerman
                                                                  Darren Timmerman  3 months back

                                                                  The only way I see that the final season would have been saved is if Drago would have ate John for killing Danny. Tyrion should have died. It was his mistakes that screw Danny. Also Jon is a hypocrite. How many men from the Nightwatch died in his revenge for killing him? If Danny was "mad" I think it was more from grief than being insane like her father. She watched 2 of her children die and 2 of her closest friends died also. I fully agree with her actions.

                                                                  • Jazzwind011
                                                                    Jazzwind011  3 months back

                                                                    You (author) missed so many things that were in this series. It’s like you talk about a million dollar car, speaking only about the color, never realizing how fantastic the actual car itself, was. Sad.

                                                                    • Terry Tupling
                                                                      Terry Tupling  3 months back

                                                                      How many ads can Youtube put in an 11 minute vid? Apparently they are testing the how far they can go before they get people to just stop watching. I have seen like 10 ads so far and it isn't over yet...

                                                                      • Kyle Dobbs
                                                                        Kyle Dobbs  3 months back

                                                                        I was really disappointed in seasons 7 and 8. Especially 8--it ended too quickly leaving too many things unanswered and destroying the foundation of the story.

                                                                        • Greeneyed Gemini
                                                                          Greeneyed Gemini  3 months back

                                                                          IT'S CALLED HBO GREED .
                                                                          ALL .OF THEIR STORYLINES START WITH A BIG BANG, AND END WITH A FIZZLE OUT.

                                                                          • Maniac MATT
                                                                            Maniac MATT  3 months back

                                                                            How many fkn ads in a 11 minute video. Fk off

                                                                            • amrosoronar
                                                                              amrosoronar  3 months back

                                                                              A wise man once said - what a Bunch of entitled & ungrateful little (@n+$

                                                                              • Kevin Wales
                                                                                Kevin Wales  3 months back

                                                                                It is beyond my comprehension how fire from a dragon could burn down massive stone walls.

                                                                                • Charlot c
                                                                                  Charlot c  3 months back

                                                                                  I wasnt even that big of a fan of got, but even i was upset

                                                                                  • Kenneth Emordi
                                                                                    Kenneth Emordi  3 months back

                                                                                    I felt like crying.
                                                                                    It felt like lost eight years.
                                                                                    I wished they never aired the series.
                                                                                    How can I ever forgive them?

                                                                                    • IOS In-app Review
                                                                                      IOS In-app Review  4 months back

                                                                                      Bran the useless

                                                                                      • Sinon Burr
                                                                                        Sinon Burr  4 months back

                                                                                        I am still upset and disappointed at the ending of the series.

                                                                                        • cristian lopez
                                                                                          cristian lopez  4 months back

                                                                                          Everything was rushed. 3 major things happened within the last 3-4 episodes: the fight vs the nightking, destroying kings landing, and danys “madness” it all happened way too fast no dialogue. Had they made it an extra season where we can see dany madness getting out of hand to justify jons choice.

                                                                                          • Alexis Abdul
                                                                                            Alexis Abdul  4 months back

                                                                                            The most stupid ending

                                                                                            • Marc Anthony
                                                                                              Marc Anthony  4 months back

                                                                                              They had enough time, they chose horrible character arcs and wasted time on CGI dragon fights that were so dark you couldn't see, and not enough dialogue for a series built on dialogue.

                                                                                              • SeemsLegitTV
                                                                                                SeemsLegitTV  4 months back

                                                                                                George was right they needed 13 season to finish everyone’s story