Winter has come for Game of Thrones: Why so many fans are now turning on the show

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  • Gutfried Von Guttenberg
    Gutfried Von Guttenberg  5 months back

    well after season 6 I had hope for the next season because the book stopped with some great stors going on
    7 was the worst season for me, because I had to realize that they didn´t include the not finished story at all and that they new things they came up with where a mess
    at season 8 I was just dull (don´t know if that´s the right word) watching the show, I already was disappointing so much that there wasn´t really any way to top that, It was just some "let´s get over with it", I didn´t really cared and still it was just ridiculous some times
    I din´t really felt any thing and didn´t want to think about it too much, I blinded out that this is a part of a much better show and just could laugh about the ridiculous scenes (maybe out of desperation
    )
    at least it had some nice visuals sometimes was my only though at the end

    • Dblaster02
      Dblaster02  5 months back

      Nothing made sense in Star Wars the Last Jedi movie. Even all the major characters were twisted out.

      • Heather P
        Heather P  6 months back

        Am I the only one who almost laughed and had a flashback to "King Kong" when the dragon lifted Dany's body from the floor?

        • riflemanusa
          riflemanusa  6 months back

          I AGREE HOW HAVING "SUBTLE" OR "RARELY USED" MAGIC IN MOVIES LIKE STAR WARS AND LOTR IS THE WAY TO GO,,, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE MOVIE GOERS NOW WANT TO SEE SUPER-HEROS/MEGA-VILLIANS SLING MAGIC AND USE ALL SORTS OF MAGIC WANDS, AND THAT IS ACCORDING TO HOW MUCH MONEY THESE(UNWATCHABLE TO ME) SUPER HERO MOVIES ARE DOING IN THEATRES THESE DAYS.

          • Fled From Nowhere
            Fled From Nowhere  6 months back

            Good video. I have only one complaint: that's not how you say "Daenerys".

            • 000lowkey
              000lowkey  6 months back

              The GAME OF THRONES IS GREAT!!! People are just never satisfied. No matter how it would have ended, people will still want more & will still complain.

              • Jannik Thorsen
                Jannik Thorsen  6 months back

                Wrong. The quality of the show just went downhill.

            • kulupingerzi
              kulupingerzi  6 months back

              Very articulately put and on point.

              • Rob Vazquez
                Rob Vazquez  6 months back

                I blame Martin for allowing half story being created. He should have carried the show from start to finish it was he's damn idea not D&D.

                • spasjt
                  spasjt  6 months back

                  For this season, Jon's character arc is the greatest disappointment to me with Jaime being a hard second. Dany's arc was half-assed and the setup of Arya's defeat of the Night King was worse. However, Jon, who started as a cocky showoff but became a strong, knowledgeable, brave leader and strategist from seasons 1-5 devolves from that to being someone who's so indecisive and whinny. Blaming all those character reversals on 'loving Dany' or 'because he swore an oath' is not enough; not after that speech he gave to Dany on Dragonstone. Their first meeting was the highlight of their relationship and as leaders, after that Jon just gave up on critical thinking all together - thanks D&D.

                  • Dania x
                    Dania x  6 months back

                    Got ending = Subliminal message from the "Illuminati".. "EVERYTHING THEY BUILT. .. WILL FALL. AND FROM THE ASHES OF THEIR WORLD WE'LL BUILD A BETTER ONE". Yurp ...

                    • Augustiniu Mihaila
                      Augustiniu Mihaila  6 months back

                      If Martin don't stand against this shit delivered by the two psychopatic blood-thirsty maniacs D&D , then his last two books of the series won't reach a second edition.....

                      • Josh O'Connor
                        Josh O'Connor  6 months back

                        I quit watching towards the end of season 6 but still 50/50 know what's going on just via YouTube. Honestly I couldn't believe the white Walker and the night king story took a back seat to The Denareus and Cercies story. Huge mistake in my opinion and then couple that with Aria getting the death blow on the knight king which was John's arch, well it made me glad I quit watching if I'm keeping it 100.

                        • Altered Beast
                          Altered Beast  6 months back

                          Turns out it wasnt a stallion who mounted the world, it was a wheelchair

                          • futurestoryteller
                            futurestoryteller  6 months back

                            Oh yes, so much "fan service" in these last two episodes it's craaazy

                            • berk gündüz
                              berk gündüz  6 months back

                              ✌👍

                              • Robi
                                Robi  6 months back

                                Undead invasion should have started mid season 7 and had white walkers conquering city by city with winter moving south episode by episode, untill 2nd episode of s8 where at kings landing would be last desperate stand against cold and undead. They should also present winter as devastating ruthless nature that kills armies with COLD, killing 30% of armies with nothing else but freezing them to death slowly. I would also keep it all obscure (even though i guess audience wouldnt like it that way), night king and his army should come in a fog that spreads and shrouds 7 kingdoms slowly, bringing the cold of winter. Snow, wind, blizzard, natures elements along with undead should be the long night. And how for it to end... i dont know, im not writer, but long night should be LONG and DEADLY. There are many fan fictions out there (bran making mad king mad by worging into him to warn him about unded telling him to BURN THEM ALL and later Bran becoming night king in desperate worging atempt into him before he is created by 'elf people'. Like I said, im not writer, point of this long comment is for Long night, how it fell short and laughable, it should have been ENTIRE SEASON LONG.

                                • Brian M
                                  Brian M  6 months back

                                  i’m probably in the minority but the white walkers, wights and the night king were always the LEAST interesting plot of game of thrones to me. it felt like the walking dead in a medieval setting these last couple of seasons. the human characters, politics and story has always been WAY more interesting to watch unfold.

                                  • Noone important
                                    Noone important  6 months back

                                    With the shows propensity for sexposition . . . granted in some sometimes uncomfortable ways. . . I dunno how you can claim the show is "Anti fan service."
                                    There's a shit ton of consensual non disturbing fan service littered throughout GoT from S1 to S8. There's been ship teasing since the beginning of the show . . . Like Gendy x Arya....So What do you mean by the show is anti fan service?

                                    • Benjamin Leonard
                                      Benjamin Leonard  6 months back

                                      It's kind of funny how everyone is upset and the season isn't even over. I think a smarter way to enjoy and to analyze is to actually watching the show up to it's ending. Otherwise, a lot poeple are looking like fools for acting as if it is the end of the world.


                                      The funny thing becomes less so, once you start to see the amount of idiots who genuinely think that a petition on "Change.org" is not only going to mean something to HBO, but also it speaks to the ridiculousness of caring so much for a goddamn TV show.
                                      It's fine if you hate it or dislike it, but com' the fuck on. There are children that think a little more than you.


                                      I personally like quite a bit the season so far. It has it's issues, but for the most part, the characters arc only go as naturaly as I saw them from the begining of the show. The production is top notch, the score, the visual effects... as Good as I come to expect. Don't know how is gonna end, but still excited.

                                      • Sailor.X
                                        Sailor.X  6 months back

                                        Years ago I predicted people would hate the show at the end. Now I make another prediction. All those that praised it over the years will call it mediocre in 25 years time. And you can quote me on that in a quarter century.

                                        • Gd LOP
                                          Gd LOP  6 months back

                                          Hbo proposed the season to have 10 episodes but dumb and dumber said it could be done in 6 episodes....
                                          how about that ? after the show is finished i will start reading the books. someone proposed to me not to read the books beforehand because i would hate the show. Also Amazon will make a tv series out of the Wheel of time series, which is a bigger series of books and according to some people better than game of thrones .

                                          • Blood Alpha
                                            Blood Alpha  6 months back

                                            I agree with you completely but never stick up for Dumb and Dumber aka D&D you watch they will scrap Star Wars next

                                            • WhoWouldWantThisName
                                              WhoWouldWantThisName  6 months back

                                              You made a point of how some shows feel written from the end back to the beginning, and how that is backwards. With a series I agree that it will likely feel much more natural to write forwards and allow the story to unfold organically. With shorter stories, such as films, though it is now common place and even taught in schools as a perfectly fine approach to start at your end then reverse engineer your story to discover how you will get there. I imagine many newer (last 15 or so years) writers are using this method within ALL story telling including TV. I don't think it is necessarily wrong but the fact you mentioned this as being how a show may feel made me realize that doing things this way can actually create this problem for an audience, if not done carefully and skillfully. I think if you approach a long running show or franchise of films with a long term over all story (eg: Star Wars saga) you must keep your framework or outline very vague and open to be filled in over time. Too many plot points and details leaves the writers painted into one corner after another. I think the reverse approach to designing your story is something that has become common over the last 15-20 years at most. So I think we have lots of this to look forward to for quite some time before it becomes better understood how to balance it all out and keep things consistent and natural feeling throughout.

                                              • WhoWouldWantThisName
                                                WhoWouldWantThisName  6 months back

                                                Well at least this essay, or analysis, of GOT is satisfying. I am not YET a fan of the show and am waiting to binge watch the entire thing. That wasn't always my intention but by the time I realized that I am interested in this show they were already a good 5 seasons into it. I still watched this though because of the parallels that exist in this franchise, or at least what it's going through, and Star Wars and it's own fandom. I know without even seeing GOT that you have made a very clear and deep assessment of just what it is that is happening with the show and what the fans may be struggling with. So long as these videos aren't TOO spoiler rich I will be watching to see how things go, at least from a certain point of view. ;)

                                                • Cato Sicarius
                                                  Cato Sicarius  6 months back

                                                  They actually toned the magic down way to much in my opinion

                                                  • karlmedina328
                                                    karlmedina328  6 months back

                                                    Exactly, why wouldn't Hawkeye have shot down Danenerys's dragon, head or neck shot if possible? Come to think of it, they make it look like he nearly shot *Daenerys* in the head with the fourth shot!

                                                    • Catubrannos
                                                      Catubrannos  6 months back

                                                      The army of the dead weren't just defeated in one single night, they were defeated with one single knife, and that is what robs the whole build up of any meaning, especially as there was zero plot build up of Arya getting to the Night King - she just appears.

                                                      • Max Messling
                                                        Max Messling  6 months back

                                                        Sorry, to me an infinite number of Jedis is my Star Wars. I grew up and fell in love with the OT but prefer the prequels by far. I can't get enough of Jedi magic. Might be why I don't care about the sequel trilogy, we're back a very finite number of force users. When you have many force users to choose with, even if tyou don't like the main guys, you can always find some role models with the lesser characters. Never was a big fan of the Force users in the OT or the sequels. In the OT, my top 4 characters were not Force users, Han Solo, Boba Fett, Lando Calrissian and Wedge Antillies. Fett is the only one in my top 10 atm and his father is the only other character who's not a Force user in the top 10.

                                                        • Ice&Fire
                                                          Ice&Fire  6 months back

                                                          Star Wars was never that great to begin with...

                                                          • Cinch McCoy
                                                            Cinch McCoy  6 months back

                                                            The simple reason that the show went down hill is because they ran out of book material because the books were written like a screenplay and made it super easy for sub par writers and directors to look good. Most of the awards that this show has received need to go directly to Martin.

                                                            • Josh Ricks
                                                              Josh Ricks  6 months back

                                                              Still love the books. My fault for getting hooked on the show when the books are not finished. Too large a job for TV writers and producers. Let be honest, D&D are they typical talent lacking hollywierd types that were in it so they could hire porn stars (and I'm sure all that comes with hiring porn stars, its gotta be rough for show runner types after Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein). Just not the type of individuals up to this task.

                                                              • Tomi Baranya
                                                                Tomi Baranya  6 months back

                                                                The decline was palpable from season 5. I really hated season 7. I'm watching season 8 for laughs and to learn how did this spectacular collapse came together. I also lost interest in the books when GRRM started the new, out of nowhere plot lines in A Dance with Dragons.

                                                                • Chris White
                                                                  Chris White  6 months back

                                                                  7:19 what the hell is a Dan-Rease?

                                                                  • TheRealDanBond
                                                                    TheRealDanBond  6 months back

                                                                    During the clone wars there were a TON of jedi.

                                                                    • Adreus Farrington
                                                                      Adreus Farrington  6 months back

                                                                      D&D: Well in my point of view the fans are evil!

                                                                      George R.R. Martin: Then you are lost!

                                                                      (Fight scene George R.R. Martin jumps onto the bank.)

                                                                      George R.R. Martin: It's over D&D I have the better script, and series.

                                                                      D&D: You underestimate my retconning.

                                                                      George R.R Martin: Don't try it.

                                                                      (Autistic screeching followed by a leap, and proceeds to get cut by the the knees by Brisingr.)

                                                                      George R.R. Martin: You were my brother D&D! I loved you! You were the chosen directors!

                                                                      D&D: I hate you!!!!

                                                                      • Ranty McRant-Pants
                                                                        Ranty McRant-Pants  6 months back

                                                                        Because they are pissy shit-heads who have achieved nothing with their lives but feel they are qualified to complain endlessly about a TV show. Treating it like a betrayal, getting upset over it like complete children.

                                                                        It's a piece of entertainment. You didn't think much of it, it doesn't fucking matter. Stop boasting about how picky, ungrateful and how much of a choosing beggar you are. Of course it is not perfect, so what? You don't know how to write a screen-play like this, stop pretending you do.

                                                                        You live in an age of prosperity, you have more privileged than any group of humans in history and all anyone can do is complain about shit.

                                                                        • C C
                                                                          C C  6 months back

                                                                          Incompetence should not be rewarded with blind loyalty - Lord Varys

                                                                          The show has become terrible. Fans are understandably not happy. This ending is shit, plain and simple. And to be honest GRRM is not really innocent about this whole mess.

                                                                          • Hydry
                                                                            Hydry  6 months back

                                                                            the writing in the show has been getting steadily worse since season 4, its a shame though that the awfulness of season 8 had to happen to make a lot of fans realise this

                                                                            • MrLurre95
                                                                              MrLurre95  6 months back

                                                                              I can see your point, one of my friends feel the same way although I personaly have no problem with the abundance magic.

                                                                              • SerbAtheist
                                                                                SerbAtheist  6 months back

                                                                                Now we know after e05. The white walkers were a narrative feint. Their surprisingly easy defeat makes much more sense. Not only is the ultimate baddie a human, buf it was one we were rooting for all along.

                                                                                • Halldór Magnússon
                                                                                  Halldór Magnússon  6 months back

                                                                                  That was such a crazy comment. The White walkers actually barely effected the world outside the wall. That's so true. All this build up and they barely made a dent. When they attack Kings-Landing, we can hardly even tell that their forces have diminished.

                                                                                  • jojolafrite90
                                                                                    jojolafrite90  6 months back

                                                                                    Petition for D&D doing the walk of shame! Or just throw pig shit at their villas, somewhere in Hollywood.

                                                                                    • jojolafrite90
                                                                                      jojolafrite90  6 months back

                                                                                      Bottom line is. People with no talent tried to emulate something that was good. They failed miserably. And now, people are pissed off. Moronic writers/producers. I want a petition that ask D&D to do a walk of shame. Make it happen! Subvert my expectations and make those 2 morons walk among a big crowd of disgruntled fans, all throwing pig shit at them while yelling SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!

                                                                                      • SurferMan127
                                                                                        SurferMan127  6 months back

                                                                                        I'm just going to leave this comment here, because someone needs to say it once: if you think that what "made the show great" was the fact that anyone could die at any time, and that "late season plot armor" is the reason why the show has gone downhill, then you never really understood Game of Thrones, or good storytelling in general. @ me if you want to discuss this further, but for the love of God, stop talking about certain characters developing plot armor as "where the show went wrong." The show's failures are simultaneously much more sophisticated (in terms of the elements of the story that they incorporate), and much simpler (in terms of basic storytelling failures) than that.

                                                                                        • Gerardo Aguilar
                                                                                          Gerardo Aguilar  6 months back

                                                                                          SEASON 8 SUCKS. NO EXCUSES

                                                                                          • jbcomics
                                                                                            jbcomics  6 months back

                                                                                            Bc fans like to bitch and moan. The show is as per GRMM. They just didn’t give the story a requisite number of seasons to wrap things up as well as they could have.

                                                                                            • bluehornet632
                                                                                              bluehornet632  6 months back

                                                                                              DEN-AIR-IS.... Daenerys. Denerise isnt a character in this in this franchise

                                                                                              • Rico Riggins
                                                                                                Rico Riggins  6 months back

                                                                                                I agree with you. The writers knew how they wanted it to end they just did not know how to get to that ending