Game of Thrones Alternate Ending in Books? Jon Lady Stoneheart Theory!

  • Published: 29 May 2019
  • Game of Thrones Alternate Endings Revealed! Could Jon Snow become an undead Lady Stoneheart figure in the Game of Thrones books? Big thanks to Hello Fresh! For $80 off your first month of delicious meals, go to and enter promo code ROCKSTARS80. And big thanks to Away Travel! Use promo code ROCKSTARS20 at checkout for $20 off your order of awesome luggage at

    In this episode of #westerosweekly, Erik Voss analyzes the different storylines of George R R Martin's "A Song of Ice and Fire" book series that could make The Winds of Winter and A Dream of Spring play out quite differently from Game of Thrones Season 8 -- Dany's madness, Bran's stiffness, and Jon's nuthin-ness. Who is Young Griff / Aegon the 6th, and how will he complicate Dany's quest for the Iron Throne going forward? If Jon DOES resurrect in the books, will he resemble Kit Harrington's depiction, or closer to the resurrected Catelyn Stark Lady Stoneheart figure? Will Jeyne Poole replace Sansa in her storyline? Did Jorah Mormont originally have a different fate in the Game of Thrones finale? And what fake scenes were shot for the final season to keep the secrets?



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Comments • 259

  • Carolina Casalaspro
    Carolina Casalaspro  3 weeks back

    After what happened today, all those theories are as good as dead. Mad Dany won't happen. And probably George will re write everything.

    • Truth Peace
      Truth Peace  2 months back

      After watching the end of the TV series I'm not excited anymore about what will happen in the books. Seems like GRRM has already decided what will happen to main characters so what's the point?

      • Truth Peace
        Truth Peace  2 months back

        The Night King storyline is not even mentioned in the books!

        • Shannon T
          Shannon T  3 months back

          Please don’t do GRRM as a muppet again 🤣

          • Lord Clarke
            Lord Clarke  5 months back

            No I honestly don't want Jon to comeback anything like Lady Stoneheart. Hopefully his return is far more similar to Beric. As for Bran as King, GRRM did in fact say Bran will be King but he also mentions that at the end of the story quite a few people will sit on the Iron Throne.

            • daniel mcdivitt
              daniel mcdivitt  5 months back

              I think two vengeful characters that are so alot would be an overload

              • Ethan Lawrence
                Ethan Lawrence  5 months back

                A raven of the seven kingdoms

                • Joe Thompson
                  Joe Thompson  5 months back

                  Stop the Raven it's fuckin terrible!

                  • game warrior
                    game warrior  5 months back

                    What happened to debrief

                    • M Snow
                      M Snow  5 months back

                      George RR Martin is old, he may not finish the books😩

                      • EverNumb
                        EverNumb  5 months back

                        If HBO got the at least 10 seasons that they wanted the plotpoints that didn't make sense when given in only 6 episodes would have been better done over 20 plus episodes.

                        • EverNumb
                          EverNumb  5 months back

                          All the Stark Children are Wargs in the books it's just that Bran is the strongest one.

                          • Mo Bailey
                            Mo Bailey  5 months back

                            Jon took so many Ls in season 8. Pod def should’ve been above Jon. And Brienne. And the Hound. Tyrion also took hella Ls.

                            • Cody James
                              Cody James  5 months back

                              briennes last word in adwd is "sword". word to GRRM.

                              • Elisha Singh
                                Elisha Singh  5 months back

                                Sansa was the most forgettable character in my books.

                                • Andriy Prokopchuk
                                  Andriy Prokopchuk  5 months back


                                  • Anke Jl
                                    Anke Jl  6 months back

                                    Sansa will be queen in the books

                                    • killerjob
                                      killerjob  6 months back

                                      Jon to ghost hmmmmmmm...... Just like Rickon " its all a shaggy dog story" GRRM told and tells us all

                                      • Steve G
                                        Steve G  6 months back

                                        No, no. We clicked away...

                                        • Melissa Scheliga
                                          Melissa Scheliga  6 months back

                                          I count 4 water bottles. Did I miss any? Lol

                                          • Lola Jay
                                            Lola Jay  6 months back

                                            Dany will still burn KL and die

                                            • Gero Fletcher
                                              Gero Fletcher  6 months back

                                              I usually dont comment, but the "Bran Sucsession" could be similar to the way Tibet chooses the next Dalai Lama, giving Bran the choice to find a worthy successor and passing on thr title of Three Eyed Raven, similarly to thr way Bran became the TER.

                                              • Heather Riede
                                                Heather Riede  6 months back

                                                lol there's water bottles in the background. Is that a mockery of us seeing those in the finale of GOT?

                                                • KarltheFirst
                                                  KarltheFirst  6 months back

                                                  I was a lit major and yet I can’t for the life of me comprehend what the hell “foreshadowing is not character development” means. Then again, fans have said a lot of stupid things these last few weeks.

                                                  • Kevin Roth
                                                    Kevin Roth  6 months back

                                                    “Get back down there...*excitedly says yes*”

                                                    • Cynthia Choi
                                                      Cynthia Choi  6 months back

                                                      Hello fresh promo code didn't work

                                                      • Cynthia Choi
                                                        Cynthia Choi  6 months back

                                                        You do a really great George. Props!!!!

                                                        • jpmzo
                                                          jpmzo  6 months back

                                                          Re: Young Griff. He's also already in Westeros...

                                                          • ElleintheA
                                                            ElleintheA  6 months back

                                                            Yep! Sansa is the winner in my mind too

                                                            • Chun Qiu
                                                              Chun Qiu  6 months back

                                                              Oh no more theories !

                                                              • Ana Sokolovska
                                                                Ana Sokolovska  6 months back

                                                                " everything before the word "but" doesen't count"

                                                                • Patty Nielsen
                                                                  Patty Nielsen  6 months back

                                                                  Someone had indicated that if you binge watch season 8, it might be better. I found that to be true. But I was less critical of the season than some anyway. Try it out.

                                                                  • Quique
                                                                    Quique  6 months back

                                                                    I maybe in the minority but I am no longer looking forward to either books as the series finale ruined it for me especially if this is where GRRM is deciding to take the books. Personally I've moved on to other series & writers especially those that do not take a decade or more to finish a book.

                                                                  • Thomas Gilsfeldt
                                                                    Thomas Gilsfeldt  6 months back

                                                                    To me, the most disappointing thing about the ending was Jamie’s character arc. He should have been the Valonqar (king slayer and queen slayer).

                                                                    • Anirudh .v.n
                                                                      Anirudh .v.n  6 months back

                                                                      No Jon snow should be normal if GRR is going to resurrect him

                                                                      • Inceptions661
                                                                        Inceptions661  6 months back

                                                                        This video is better than season 8

                                                                        • ketchup016
                                                                          ketchup016  6 months back

                                                                          Also I bet Tyrion will be smarter.

                                                                          • Mickey Bitsko
                                                                            Mickey Bitsko  6 months back

                                                                            Thought-provoking as always, but for gawd sake take a course in puppetery. You'll thank me later, honest.

                                                                            • LiteralShoppingKart
                                                                              LiteralShoppingKart  6 months back

                                                                              one way the books will end differently. JAIME will live and end up with Briene. i swear to god.

                                                                              • JAFKennedy
                                                                                JAFKennedy  6 months back

                                                                                Or he will die killing his sister to save his beloved Briene !

                                                                            • rohit c
                                                                              rohit c  6 months back

                                                                              Basically he saying his done with the book but he not satisfied with the book yet.

                                                                              • Screenplaya
                                                                                Screenplaya  6 months back

                                                                                Uh (pushes up glasses), Sansa is Queen IN the North.

                                                                                • Brandy R
                                                                                  Brandy R  6 months back

                                                                                  I feel like people are overly critical of Danys rein in Maureen. Ending slavery in a place where its their whole foundation isn't something you're going to fix over night. How many years was the south completely fucked after the civil war? The Sons of the Harpy feel like a westerosi version of the rise of the KKK. And as I recall the president who freed the slaves and his successor didn't fair so well either. One was assassinated and the other was impeached. Great things require great sacrifice and take years to see through.

                                                                                  • Miguel Oros
                                                                                    Miguel Oros  6 months back

                                                                                    29:42 bruh, I was really expecting Bronn to be on the top spot.

                                                                                    • Haley S
                                                                                      Haley S  6 months back

                                                                                      Looking forward to George’s ending. This channel always has awesome coverage.

                                                                                      • Kelly Zahara
                                                                                        Kelly Zahara  6 months back

                                                                                        What's with all the water bottles??

                                                                                        • Dularr
                                                                                          Dularr  6 months back

                                                                                          Jon Snow, wasn't he that secondary character in season 8.

                                                                                          • Dularr
                                                                                            Dularr  6 months back

                                                                                            Anything but the Disney happy ending we got. All the heroes got good endings, All the villains died.

                                                                                            • James Webb, Disabled USAF Veteran, CANCER WARRIOR

                                                                                              After watching it a second time, I picked up even more plot ideas and possible character developments!! You peaked my entrust so much that I went to the library and picked up George R^2 Martin’s first two audiobooks on GoTs. Can’t wait!!